Modding torpedos and loadup

[Aquelarrefox]

hi, first i wanna know if its posible to make something like this of is hardcoded limited.

Does the torpedo.sim be able to add a second speed for electric torpedo (all types) like steam torpedoes have 3 speeds to emulate the cold torpedos. (used by player rules as in JFO2)?

How could be posible left a empty external slot when you sails from bases as in late war, medium and short operation doesnt have esternal torpedos (for explotion risk)? also incluided in orders from JFO.

Could be nice incorporate this, also get a pritty longer ranges (becose in reality the max range is stadistic and in reality also many toepdoes can go a little more. (as polish gwx incorporate as optional mod)

Any idea or suggestion will be welcome.

[rudewarrior]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

Does the torpedo.sim be able to add a second speed for electric torpedo (all types) like steam torpedoes have 3 speeds to emulate the cold torpedos. (used by player rules as in JFO2)?

As far as I know you can't add a second speed. I included a Torpedo.sim file that covers the slower speed for Type II torpedoes that aren't warmed.

How could be posible left a empty external slot when you sails from bases as in late war, medium and short operation doesnt have esternal torpedos (for explotion risk)? also incluided in orders from JFO.

In the basic.cfg file, where they list slots, you can put in "-1" and there will be no torpedo in that slot when you load. Works for both internal and external slots.

[Aquelarrefox]

aparently is harcoded the numbers of speed as you said. i think none of patcher will be lost time in a minor change as this.

thanks rudewarrior

In the basic.cfg file, where they list slots, you can put in "-1" and there will be no torpedo in that slot when you load. Works for both internal and external slots.

why -1 inpite of 0? as external of type II

[SUBMARINE_AMMO0]; IIA
Type=0
Version=0
ForeTubes=3
AftTubes=0
ForeResIntern=2
ForeResExtern=0
ForeResExtra=0
AftResIntern=0
AftResExtern=0
ShellSlots=4
NbYears=7

Year0=1939
ForeTube00=0
ForeTube01=0
ForeTube02=0
ForeResIntern00=0
ForeResIntern01=0
Z01_00=0; IIA/1
A01_00=8
SuperCharger_00=-1
Batteries_00=1263
Hydrophone_00=1270
Radar_00=-1
RadarWarningReceiver_00=-1
Decoy_Launcher_00=-1
SonarCoatings_00=-1
RadarCoatings_00=-1
Renown0=0

Year1=1940
ForeTube10=0
ForeTube11=0
ForeTube12=0
ForeResIntern10=0
ForeResIntern11=0
Z01_10=0; IIA/1
A01_10=8
SuperCharger_10=-1
Batteries_10=1263
Hydrophone_10=1270
Radar_10=-1
RadarWarningReceiver_10=-1
Decoy_Launcher_10=-1
SonarCoatings_10=-1
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown1=0


Year2=1941
ForeTube20=2
ForeTube21=0
ForeTube22=2
ForeResIntern20=2
ForeResIntern21=0
Z01_20=0; IIA/1
A01_20=8
SuperCharger_20=-1
Batteries_20=1263
Hydrophone_20=1270
Radar_20=-1
RadarWarningReceiver_20=-1
Decoy_Launcher_20=-1
SonarCoatings_20=-1
RadarCoatings_20=-1
Renown2=0

......


[SUBMARINE_AMMO2]; VIIB
Type=1
Version=0
ForeTubes=4
AftTubes=1
ForeResIntern=4
ForeResExtern=1
ForeResExtra=2
AftResIntern=1
AftResExtern=1
ShellSlots=10
NbYears=7
Renown=3
SNK_MASK=NSS_Uboattype7_SNK_mask

any idea what meand the change of values in "ForeTube20=x" with the years?

[rudewarrior]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

why -1 inpite of 0? as external of type II

"0" = T1 G7a torpedo.

any idea what meand the change of values in "ForeTube20=x" with the years?

This represents changes in the loadout from year to year. If you start a career/patrol the starting loadout configuration is determined by the submarine type and the year of the patrol/career.

[Aquelarrefox]

Originally Posted by rudewarrior

"0" = T1 G7a torpedo.



This represents changes in the loadout from year to year. If you start a career/patrol the starting loadout configuration is determined by the submarine type and the year of the patrol/career.

ahhh in undestand now, reading again. Very very important to me. Thanks rude!

[LGN1]

Hi Aquelarrefox,

you can add a second speed setting if you want. I use this all the time. See my old posts:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...6&postcount=23

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...7&postcount=97

Regards, LGN1

[rudewarrior]

Originally Posted by LGN1

you can add a second speed setting if you want. I use this all the time. See my old posts:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...6&postcount=23

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...7&postcount=97

Ack! Right there in my mod post, too! I seemed to remember that you could add different speeds to the TII, but I couldn't confirm it. I think I may have actually written that in at one time in my own mod version, but my memory isn't what it used to be. Good catch!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

Does the torpedo.sim be able to add a second speed for electric torpedo (all types) like steam torpedoes have 3 speeds to emulate the cold torpedos. (used by player rules as in JFO2)?

A bit of reality:

1) The steam torpedoes have three speeds in the game because they had three speeds in real life. It has nothing to do with cold torpedoes.

2) The electric torpedoes have only one speed in the game because that's all they had in real life.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTGER_WWII.php

[Aquelarrefox]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

A bit of reality:

1) The steam torpedoes have three speeds in the game because they had three speeds in real life. It has nothing to do with cold torpedoes.

2) The electric torpedoes have only one speed in the game because that's all they had in real life.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTGER_WWII.php

Hey Steve, i know that, but playing with rules is a better solution for the cold torpedoes than reload game. And in deed i see that a captain could maintain cold torpedos for short of personal (injuried) or flood, You see long period to warm it.

but in fact in real life they have a variable speed based on temperature. Warm system were emtrembly complex to patch and i see as a lost of time, but get cold and warm torpedoes looks rational for me. Any way, is like playing jfo, is under your rules.

part 8 http://www.ubootwaffe.pl/en/u-boats/...german-u-boats

you can add a second speed setting if you want. I use this all the time. See my old posts:

thanks i will read it, thanks

please can you upload the file. I made the change but the switch in gui get only one speed (i set speed [0] and [1]).
Is needed any other change to make secod speed selectable?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

Hey Steve, i know that, but playing with rules is a better solution for the cold torpedoes than reload game. And in deed i see that a captain could maintain cold torpedos for short of personal (injuried) or flood, You see long period to warm it.

Sorry, I wasn't sure. You said the game had 3 speeds to emulate cold torpedoes. It seemed to me that you thought that was the only reason they had three speeds.

Were electric torpedoes heated? I couldn't see a reason for adding a second speed setting.

That said, what I can or can't see shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the game. I hope you find the answers you're looking for.

[Aquelarrefox]

yes in ideed i solve the problem and the electric torpedoes now have 2 speed.

the strange is that it only can have 2 nor 3 the steamer.

i set speed [0][1][2], only reads 0 and 2. Is no mucho logical, but solve my problem and its ok. Other usefull piece for the most sympliefed aplicattion of FJO.

Mybe in 2 weeks i will finish this version of CAWS 1.61 - Extra + JFO + NEW BEARING. The worst part have been done.

[LGN1]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

yes in ideed i solve the problem and the electric torpedoes now have 2 speed.

the strange is that it only can have 2 nor 3 the steamer.

i set speed [0][1][2], only reads 0 and 2. Is no mucho logical, but solve my problem and its ok. Other usefull piece for the most sympliefed aplicattion of FJO.

Mybe in 2 weeks i will finish this version of CAWS 1.61 - Extra + JFO + NEW BEARING. The worst part have been done.

Glad I could help.

Why do you want to have three settings for the electric ones?

What I could not yet find out is how and when the heating procedure was done. Were the batteries kept at 30°C during the whole patrol? Or just for a few days when combat was probable? Or were they only heated when enemy ships were encountered? Any information on this would be great!

Regards, LGN1