Lost renown; don't know why...

Greystone · 02-08-15, 02:17 AM

New campaign, type II out of Kiel, completed 2 missions. First mission nothing happened; went out, spent my 24 hours patrolling a grid, & returned with all torps intact. Zero renown.
Second patrol; completed the 24 hour grid patrol, then on 9-13-39 I sunk a French merchant and a British merchant. With all torps spent, I returned to Kiel and saw that I had somehow garnered a minus 247.45 renown for the patrol.
I can't figure out why; crew returned in good health, sub undamaged, was at war with both France and Britain on that date.
Anybody?...

GoldenRivet · 02-08-15, 03:30 AM

The ship you sunk may have been a vichy french ship (Neutral) or a ship registered to the Netherlands (flag often mistaken for french)

either way the ships would have been neutral resulting in a loss of renown

do you happen to recall the color of the ship sinking icons on the nav map?

Was one of the ship sinking icons green? if so, you sank a neutral ship

Greystone · 02-08-15, 12:33 PM

Good grief, the map icons are both green...
Kills were at night, hard to make out the flags. One must've been French Vichy & the other I ignorantly took as British, but was in fact Norwegian. Lesson learned; pay close attention to flags & dates.
Thanks for the feedback, GoldenRivet..
What the hell, only 2 missions; think I'll start over..

Herr-Berbunch · 02-08-15, 03:08 PM

Haha, rookie mistake that we've all made. Now get rid of map colour contacts and learn to be very patient with your IDing, and that means getting close and even risk losing a potential kill. It'll take much longer but you feel more tension and and euphoric relief after stalking your prey whether it's a kill or not. Sometimes just getting away alive is enough.

Whichever way you choose to play - enjoy it and tell us how it goes.

Woodylepic · 02-08-15, 03:26 PM

Where is the SHII room ?
I'm still playing this game and i'm not alone to play (Its the only SH serie that have "REAL" DC openned (NOT SCRAP AI) WHY ther no more room for it ? thar realy suck !

Admiral Halsey · 02-08-15, 03:31 PM

You shouldn't be getting any Vichy ships in 39 so it was probably one of the low countries you sunk.

Sailor Steve · 02-09-15, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodylepic

Where is the SHII room ?
I'm still playing this game and i'm not alone to play (Its the only SH serie that have "REAL" DC openned (NOT SCRAP AI) WHY ther no more room for it ? thar realy suck !

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=173

02-08-15, 02:17 AM	#1
Greystone Sparky Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco area Posts: 155 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Lost renown; don't know why... New campaign, type II out of Kiel, completed 2 missions. First mission nothing happened; went out, spent my 24 hours patrolling a grid, & returned with all torps intact. Zero renown. Second patrol; completed the 24 hour grid patrol, then on 9-13-39 I sunk a French merchant and a British merchant. With all torps spent, I returned to Kiel and saw that I had somehow garnered a minus 247.45 renown for the patrol. I can't figure out why; crew returned in good health, sub undamaged, was at war with both France and Britain on that date. Anybody?...

02-08-15, 03:30 AM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	The ship you sunk may have been a vichy french ship (Neutral) or a ship registered to the Netherlands (flag often mistaken for french) either way the ships would have been neutral resulting in a loss of renown do you happen to recall the color of the ship sinking icons on the nav map? Was one of the ship sinking icons green? if so, you sank a neutral ship __________________

02-08-15, 03:08 PM	#4
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Haha, rookie mistake that we've all made. Now get rid of map colour contacts and learn to be very patient with your IDing, and that means getting close and even risk losing a potential kill. It'll take much longer but you feel more tension and and euphoric relief after stalking your prey whether it's a kill or not. Sometimes just getting away alive is enough. Whichever way you choose to play - enjoy it and tell us how it goes. __________________

02-08-15, 03:26 PM	#5
Woodylepic Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	SHII ROOM ? Where is the SHII room ? I'm still playing this game and i'm not alone to play (Its the only SH serie that have "REAL" DC openned (NOT SCRAP AI) WHY ther no more room for it ? thar realy suck !

02-08-15, 12:33 PM	#3
Greystone Sparky Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco area Posts: 155 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Good grief, the map icons are both green... Kills were at night, hard to make out the flags. One must've been French Vichy & the other I ignorantly took as British, but was in fact Norwegian. Lesson learned; pay close attention to flags & dates. Thanks for the feedback, GoldenRivet.. What the hell, only 2 missions; think I'll start over..

02-08-15, 03:31 PM	#6
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 317 Uploads: 0	You shouldn't be getting any Vichy ships in 39 so it was probably one of the low countries you sunk.