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Old 01-13-14, 01:08 AM   #1
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SHO S-Class skippers unite!

Allright folks and fogies, Lets hear your thoughts on the unsung little underdog of SH IV, the dinky little sub who putters along at 11 knots (on a good day), It may not be the prettiest boat, or the best armed, but some of us love that ancient hunk of rust and bolts.

Lets hear what you like about the S-Class, your fondest memories, best patrol, best sinking, etc. Have at it.
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Old 01-13-14, 08:02 AM   #2
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I love starting with an s-boat. It's really a challenge just to get lined up for a decent shot. It's almost pure luck to get in position.
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Old 01-13-14, 08:29 AM   #3
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Anyone who loves the sugar boat might get a kick out of this old thread too.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=s-class
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It may not be the prettiest boat, or the best armed, but some of us love that ancient hunk of rust and bolts.

Admiral Hart, who was in command of the US Asiatic Fleet would have agreed with you. He was a strong proponent of the small coastal defense submarine instead of the large fleet submarines which had begun to appear. Hart felt that the fleet submarines had performed poorly during the Japanese conquest of the Philippines and Dutch East Indies. (they had) and that the smaller, simpler submarines he preferred would have done better (which is probably untrue.) He also felt modern subs were too complex and loaded with fragile gizmos. ( like radar and air conditioning)

The deployment of large number of S-boats out of reserve to the Southwest Pacific in 1942 may have been influenced by Hart's attitude.
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I seem to recall they had so many problems with the S boats during the war, everything from leaking pressure hulls to ballast tank compressor's failing, in fact if memory serves some of them hadnt been properly maintained since the mid 20's.
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Admiral Hart, who was in command of the US Asiatic Fleet would have agreed with you. He was a strong proponent of the small coastal defense submarine instead of the large fleet submarines which had begun to appear. Hart felt that the fleet submarines had performed poorly during the Japanese conquest of the Philippines and Dutch East Indies. (they had) and that the smaller, simpler submarines he preferred would have done better (which is probably untrue.) He also felt modern subs were too complex and loaded with fragile gizmos. ( like radar and air conditioning)

The deployment of large number of S-boats out of reserve to the Southwest Pacific in 1942 may have been influenced by Hart's attitude.
I can see the logic in a small coastal defense boat. You deploy, patrol for say 10 hours, and return. The crew sleeps on land. Two hour change-over so another crew can patrol with the same boat. Short range, don't need as large of crew, no sleeping quarters, no need to store large amounts of food. Makes for a smaller, faster, more agile boat over all. It could even have been used in conjuction with aircraft patrol to intercept enemy ships.
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Old 01-13-14, 03:17 PM   #7
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It may not be the prettiest boat,
What do you mean? I only tried it out because I liked the look of it.
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I've always been successful with the ol' Sugar.

Sank a cruiser and two destroyers on my first ever patrol with it.
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Old 01-14-14, 03:11 PM   #9
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Lucky you, Most I've sank in it is big fat tankers.
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Old 01-14-14, 06:15 PM   #10
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I never commanded an S-boat myself but with the way those blasted mk14's are acting I just might start a new career in one myself.
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Old 01-14-14, 08:58 PM   #11
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Word of advice, it can take you up to 3 or more torpedos to sink ships that the MK XIV sinks with 1-2, but beyond that its a good boat.
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Old 01-14-14, 09:05 PM   #12
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I always liked the S-boats; mainly because I had good experiences with them in SHCE. Learning how to manually calculate firing solutions (without using the TDC), riding out depth charge attacks by angry destroyers, battling stormy seas; it was a rich learning experience.



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Anyone who loves the sugar boat might get a kick out of this old thread too.
I'm glad you posted that, it kind of took me back.
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