Obama's purge of top military brass...

[Bubblehead1980]

Support him or not, anyone looking at this fairly has to find it mighty suspicious that obama has "fired" 9 Generals and Admirals now.Why? No real explanations aside from some vague accusations that sound like nothing more than arbitrary reasons to rid the military of those who do not support him.Dismissing the Admiral who refused to stand down when they gave the idiotic order not to defend Benghazi ? I hear North Korea's "leader" has been purging his military as well. Should be outrage over this, of course our half braindead population remains silent.Close national parks or have food stamps threatened, oh plenty of uproar.SMH

[Cybermat47]

Umm... link?

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Umm... link?

CT?

Umm... link?

Try Rush and Jones.

CT?

What, Limbaugh and Alex? never

[Betonov]

Force retiring generals is not a purge.


THIS is a purge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

[Jimbuna]

Do you have a link or a source for what you are claiming?

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Try Rush and Jones.



What, Limbaugh and Alex? never

No.Get a life

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

No.Get a life

[Bubblehead1980]

I will never understand why so many give the government the benefit of the doubt, especially this administration as it has shown that it can not be trusted.ABC news reported about the two Marine Generals in Afghanistan being relieved, their reason for doing so was vague and suspect.Stanley McChrystal did nothing wrong but made off the record comments talking about how the admin had no clue, and they don't.Fired he was, and promptly.Why? Not for failure to perform his duty, simply because he bruised very fragile egos in the admin.

David Petraeus? Sounds like admin put the NSA on him.Hacking of emails etc? Wonder why? Perhaps he had the balls to stand up to obama and his people.They can't just fire them, so they search for a way to discredit him.Weak one anyways, ooh he had an affrair, grow up.

The dismissal of the Admiral sounds highly suspect and even if he gambles, so what? Should not lose his career over it.


Yes, this is a purge.Perhaps not a Stalin take them out back and shoot them style purge but this is way purges happen in america right now.Find something to discredit them in the media, push them out.Wonder who is replacing them? Now doubt spineless butt kissing types.They probably fit the bill of "Captain Hanks" from Men of Honor, that is what comes to mind.Pencil Pushing yes men with no guts.

There are other less publicized dismissals but read it is 9 thus far.Yes, a purge and given they all made it so far in careers without any problems, awful suspect they are suddenly not up to standard.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

No.Get a life

Really? Then provide a source that isn't them or which doesn't link directly to their crazy conspiracy theories.
There are other sources running it without links to those two crazies, but unfortunately for you they manage the incredible feat of being even funnier than those two fruitcakes.

[Tchocky]

Back on the GT merry go round.

Didn't we used to have a better class of argument around here? Or do I misremember..

[Ducimus]

Ok, I know I'm not exactly the most stellar poster on the forum, but I just have to point out how this thread was doomed from the get go.

To bubblehead, lets go through this by the numbers:

Problem 1.
No citation, or supporting links from a recognized and credible news source. examples being nytimes, cnn, foxnews, bbc, huffington post, latimes, etc etc. I think everyone knows that all media has a spin, but unless the major news networks have picked up on it, it's probably not a credible story. If your source is not both recognized and credible, expect mockery and funny pictures. Additionally, a second supporting link that is also both recognizeable and credible bolsters your post.

There is a case for 3rd party news outlets that provide official links and cites official sources. However, if it plays "connect the dots" too much, and is not articulate, clear, and rational, it will also be dismissed.

Shock jocks like Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, are right out. Never use them for sources. If your trying to convince anyone of anything, don't use them.


problem 2.
Post title. " Obama's purge of top military brass.".
Use something less accusatory. A good tactic if accusatory language must be used, is to craft the post title as a question. Example: Is Obama trying to purge the top military brass? This does two things:
a.) You are avoiding stating something as fact.
b.) You reserve for yourself plausible deniability.

Problem 3.
Never state anything as fact. Rather, give the supporting evidence, and ask a question instead. Choose your words carefully and let the reader draw their own conclusions. Once you state something as fact, you claim ownership of any rhetoric or falsities in your supporting evidence - real or perceived. This discredits you for the entire duration of the thread. Too many threads, and well......

Problem 4.
Be very careful when stating your opinion or take on something. Only do so when the supporting evidence is overwhelming.

Problem 5.
Avoid rhetoric or rhetorical language as much as possible. Using jingoistic buzzwords only removes you from a position of neutrality, which in turn only discredits you if your trying convince people of something. If of course your not trying to convince anyone of anything, then vent away.

Problem 6.
Learn to wordsmith. Always maintain plausible deniablity and a way out if possible.



I should be a politician when i grow up.
And yes, I know I do not always do these things myself.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Support him or not, anyone looking at this fairly has to find it mighty suspicious that obama has "fired" 9 Generals and Admirals now.Why? No real explanations aside from some vague accusations that sound like nothing more than arbitrary reasons to rid the military of those who do not support him.Dismissing the Admiral who refused to stand down when they gave the idiotic order not to defend Benghazi ? I hear North Korea's "leader" has been purging his military as well. Should be outrage over this, of course our half braindead population remains silent.Close national parks or have food stamps threatened, oh plenty of uproar.SMH

[Tchocky]

Ducimus, good points all.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Ducimus, good points all.

+1.

One other piece of advice is to not abandon your threads when your arguments are proven to be false. At least man up and admit you can be wrong mistaken or otherwise incorrect. Unless of course that was your intent from the start. But that would be trolling wouldn't it?

[periunder]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Support him or not, anyone looking at this fairly has to find it mighty suspicious that obama has "fired" 9 Generals and Admirals now.Why? No real explanations aside from some vague accusations that sound like nothing more than arbitrary reasons to rid the military of those who do not support him.Dismissing the Admiral who refused to stand down when they gave the idiotic order not to defend Benghazi ? I hear North Korea's "leader" has been purging his military as well. Should be outrage over this, of course our half braindead population remains silent.Close national parks or have food stamps threatened, oh plenty of uproar.SMH

A fatal flaw in our political system, making the president c-in-c. Although this prevents a military dictatorship, or military coup, it also prevents us from winning a war.