Britain's PM faces gay marriage revolt as plots swirl

[Gerald]

(Reuters) - British Prime Minister David Cameron's ruling Conservative party split in two on Tuesday over his plans to legalize gay marriage, a move that many of his own lawmakers said was wrong, not a priority for the public, and unnecessarily divisive.

Many Conservative MPs stood up in parliament to denounce the legislation ahead of a vote in which up to half of Cameron's 303 lawmakers are expected to reject the measure on moral and religious grounds, threatening a corrosive legacy of bitterness.

It was getting into "Alice in Wonderland territory" for any government to come along and rewrite the rules of marriage, Conservative lawmaker Roger Gale told parliament, echoing the views of many in his own party.

"This is not evolution, it's revolution," added Edward Leigh, another Conservative member of parliament, saying marriage was "by its nature a heterosexual union".

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...E9140082013020


Note: Tue Feb 5, 2013 11:40am EST

[Cybermat47]

I see marriage as a union between two people who love each other, not a man and a woman.

[HundertzehnGustav]

marriage for hetero only here.

marriage,
from my POV is a religious thing.
and IMO religion stinks and is creepy.
maybe IMO marriage stinks and is creepy too.
dunno yet, have not tried, and most likely never will.

officially living together,
for reasons that have nothing to do with religion (PACS) but only to represent an union of homosexuals, is okay with me.
They share a bed, a house, a shower, give them similar tax cuts etc than normal [and i stand by that word] people get when living together and forming a Household.



where i see trouble up ahead is adopting and somehow having children...
There the poo hits the fan... "i got two daddies and my biological mother"
i do not see that end well for the Kids. Not at all.

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

marriage for hetero only here.

marriage,
from my POV is a religious thing.

Why?

[HundertzehnGustav]

do not really know, not in a sense where i can put my Finger on a paragraph or an article.

i guess marriage was done by the church, at the church back in the old times, and not at the town hall / mairie / rathaus.
Therefor Marriage, even though today done in both variants; the official ceremoniy and the optional religious ceremony if desired has, to my mind, its roots in religion.

Gustav, you have it backwards.
If you trawl back to the last major gay marriage topic Haplo kindly produced a link which unfortunately for him destroyed that line of arguement
The early church in rome started getting in on the marriage business which was a civil/governmental matter.
At the end of the day marriage is what it always has been, simply a business contract.

[kranz]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I see marriage as a union between two people who love each other, not a man and a woman.

Why do you restrict marriage to a union between people?
I love my cat. Every morning he comes to me and rubs at my legs. When I show him my fist, he hits it with his head. He allows being scratched on his belly.
According to cat experts it is a symbol of devotion and affection.
Why can't I marry my cat then?

Dear mods: please pay more attention to posts such as the one by user: Cybermat47 because they have deeply hurt my feelings.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by kranz

Why do you restrict marriage to a union between people?
I love my cat. Every morning he comes to me and rubs at my legs. When I show him my fist, he hits it with his head. He allows being scratched on his belly.
According to cat experts it is a symbol of devotion and affection.
Why can't I marry my cat then?

In the event that you are actually being serious here - because your cat cannot legally consent to take part in such a union, in the same way that a child or a lump of coal or a blow-up doll cannot legally consent to it. Another adult human, regardless of sex, can.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

In the event that you are actually being serious here . . .

I don't think he is, and I'm hoping not, but a good response - I would've just shouted names!

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

In the event that you are actually being serious here - because your cat cannot legally consent to take part in such a union, in the same way that a child or a lump of coal or a blow-up doll cannot legally consent to it. Another adult human, regardless of sex, can.

But many other adults should not have the right to consent for lack of intelligence

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by kranz

Dear mods: please pay more attention to posts such as the one by user: Cybermat47 because they have deeply hurt my feelings.

Moderators can not moderate feelings. Hurt or otherwise. Sorry.

[kranz]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

In the event that you are actually being serious here

i've been serious 1189 times so far.

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

because your cat cannot legally consent to take part in such a union,

a bad law needs to be banned. period. and one more period. period.

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

a child

listen lady, i'm not a child molester (yet)

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

or a lump of coal

my father works in a coal mine. so what?

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

or a blow-up doll

you've been spying on me, haven't you?

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

sex

i bet you are a fine woman but sorry - it's too early for me.

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I don't think he is

very bad trolling.
0/10

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Moderators can not

OALD's impotence meaning 1 or 2?

[Oberon]

Cupcakes.


Next question?

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by kranz

Why do you restrict marriage to a union between people?
I love my cat. Every morning he comes to me and rubs at my legs. When I show him my fist, he hits it with his head. He allows being scratched on his belly.
According to cat experts it is a symbol of devotion and affection.
Why can't I marry my cat then?

Dear mods: please pay more attention to posts such as the one by user: Cybermat47 because they have deeply hurt my feelings.

So i am married to my PC.
wherevrr i go i carry a USB stick. Ring.
whenever i come home, he is there for me.
he warms my house and keeps me laughing. feeds me ridles and lets me have this AHA moment once in a while.

humans do not always do that for me.


what about mah DOG. warms my feet and greets me every day - morning noon and night.. follows me round wherever i go and has so far been a faithful companion.

[Skybird]

Do I get special rights and a tax refund for having blond hair, please? I contribute a lot of important stuff to the community and do it a great social service with my blond hair, for which I deserve some kind of privileged status and social recognition, I think.

Same rights for singles! Same rights for blonds! Equality for blond singles! I assume living together with my ficus still gets socially discriminated and banned from formal recognition of qualifying for marriage?

Gardeners of all nations, unite! Against inequality, against discrimination, against antisocial ideas of family! Marriage must be green!

Blond Pride!