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Old 10-18-11, 01:19 PM   #1
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Default Mexican drug cartels recruiting Texas children

http://news.yahoo.com/mexican-drug-c...173402030.html

If there ever was a concrete reason to seal the border, this has to be it...
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Old 10-18-11, 02:50 PM   #2
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http://news.yahoo.com/mexican-drug-c...173402030.html

If there ever was a concrete reason to seal the border, this has to be it...
I'm afraid it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
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Old 10-18-11, 03:54 PM   #3
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Aye...Remember the Alamo!!

Can't say I'm suprised though...those scum have no morals or feelings for anyone other than themselves.
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Old 10-18-11, 04:24 PM   #4
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I still offer up my idea.

1. Bring back the military from overseas and rotate them on the Northern and Southern borders. I am sure the military would rather have a 90 day tour in TX/AZ than 15 months in AF....Well depends on the part of Texas.

2. The purpose of the military is to provide military protection to the borders. They will NOT be involved in any immigration enforcement. This could take care of any Posse Comitatius concerns

3. There will be a no-military exclusion zone of 20 miles from all authorized entry points. The security of those designated entry points is the purview of DHS.

4. The rest of the border, which by definition, would be non-designed entry points would be patrolled by the military -- for national defense purposes only!

5. Stationed behind the military and separate from the military forces will be the existing federal and state border control civilian law enforcement units.

6. If the military catches someone crossing the border at a non-designated area, they would be evaluated for whether they pose a national security threat. If not, then they would be handed over to the appropriate immigration and border law enforcement agency to process according to civilian law.

There would be a clear and definite differentiation between the responsibilities of the deployed military (national defense of the borders only) and the Law Enforcement agencies stationed behind the military (enforcing the laws).

That is separation of powers.

No conflict of interest, no Posse Comitatus concerns. The military does what they do best and LE does what they do best.

No one can criticize a nation such as the United States from using its military to provide national security of its borders. The military will not interfere, nor even be involved, in any and all legal crossings at the designated entry points. Hence the military exclusion zones.

Anyone see a problem with my wacky idea?
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Old 10-18-11, 04:26 PM   #5
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Time for another Punitive Expedition?
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Old 10-18-11, 04:27 PM   #6
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I still offer up my idea.

1. Bring back the military from overseas and rotate them on the Northern and Southern borders. I am sure the military would rather have a 90 day tour in TX/AZ than 15 months in AF....Well depends on the part of Texas.

2. The purpose of the military is to provide military protection to the borders. They will NOT be involved in any immigration enforcement. This could take care of any Posse Comitatius concerns

3. There will be a no-military exclusion zone of 20 miles from all authorized entry points. The security of those designated entry points is the purview of DHS.

4. The rest of the border, which by definition, would be non-designed entry points would be patrolled by the military -- for national defense purposes only!

5. Stationed behind the military and separate from the military forces will be the existing federal and state border control civilian law enforcement units.

6. If the military catches someone crossing the border at a non-designated area, they would be evaluated for whether they pose a national security threat. If not, then they would be handed over to the appropriate immigration and border law enforcement agency to process according to civilian law.

There would be a clear and definite differentiation between the responsibilities of the deployed military (national defense of the borders only) and the Law Enforcement agencies stationed behind the military (enforcing the laws).

That is separation of powers.

No conflict of interest, no Posse Comitatus concerns. The military does what they do best and LE does what they do best.

No one can criticize a nation such as the United States from using its military to provide national security of its borders. The military will not interfere, nor even be involved, in any and all legal crossings at the designated entry points. Hence the military exclusion zones.

Anyone see a problem with my wacky idea?
It is a very concise, clearly thought out solutions. I like it alot.

Better than my sniper tower, minefield and artillery position idea I had.
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Old 10-18-11, 04:45 PM   #7
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I still offer up my idea.

1. Bring back the military from overseas and rotate them on the Northern and Southern borders. I am sure the military would rather have a 90 day tour in TX/AZ than 15 months in AF....Well depends on the part of Texas.

2. The purpose of the military is to provide military protection to the borders. They will NOT be involved in any immigration enforcement. This could take care of any Posse Comitatius concerns

3. There will be a no-military exclusion zone of 20 miles from all authorized entry points. The security of those designated entry points is the purview of DHS.

4. The rest of the border, which by definition, would be non-designed entry points would be patrolled by the military -- for national defense purposes only!

5. Stationed behind the military and separate from the military forces will be the existing federal and state border control civilian law enforcement units.

6. If the military catches someone crossing the border at a non-designated area, they would be evaluated for whether they pose a national security threat. If not, then they would be handed over to the appropriate immigration and border law enforcement agency to process according to civilian law.

There would be a clear and definite differentiation between the responsibilities of the deployed military (national defense of the borders only) and the Law Enforcement agencies stationed behind the military (enforcing the laws).

That is separation of powers.

No conflict of interest, no Posse Comitatus concerns. The military does what they do best and LE does what they do best.

No one can criticize a nation such as the United States from using its military to provide national security of its borders. The military will not interfere, nor even be involved, in any and all legal crossings at the designated entry points. Hence the military exclusion zones.

Anyone see a problem with my wacky idea?
It is too simple and makes sense. It also do not offer profit opportunities for PMCs (aka mercenaries) nor new hardware orders for defence contractors. In top of that it hardly offers free lunches/dinners nor campaing contibutions to politicians. Therefore it can't be good solution, can it?

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Better than my sniper tower, minefield and artillery position idea I had.
Sounds cool.
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Old 10-18-11, 06:46 PM   #8
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Better than my sniper tower, minefield and artillery position idea I had.
I say we take all the Americium-241 that was to go inside Yucca Mountain and spread it across the border 20 miles deep.

We get rid of our nuclear waste and stop illegal immigration for the next couple thousand years.
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