Illegal to talk to a Police Officer?

[Feuer Frei!]

If you have an Android phone or an iPhone, install Qik. It streams your video over 3G to a remote server where people can watch it in realtime, as well as gives you a remote storage of the video that the officer cannot interfere with in the event that they try to confiscate your phone (there have been plenty of cases where officers were caught destroying cell phones that people used to record video with). Qik or any similar app that will stream your video in realtime to a remote server is essential for proper police interactions.
If you're pulled over, start recording immediately. When they get to your car, ask them if they have any objections to you creating a backup video recording of your interactions to protect both yourself and the officer. If they object, **** it, keep recording. The only reason they would object is if they're going to do something they shouldn't be doing. There's a few states where they legally can stop you, though. Check your local laws, but most states will allow you to record the event. Even if the officer says not to.

[Gerald]

I am not defending some bad police officers conduct, in certain situations, but police are normal people, there are those who are good and less good, just like the rest of us, the difference is obvious as they should be clear in what the law says to the citizen, so no misunderstanding may arise

[August]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

What's so wrongful about it?

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by August

What's so wrongful about it?

Well, it seems to me that 1:53 into the video, the cop and the driver were having a discussion about something when the passenger said something, and the cop retorted "you shut your mouth" which was a bit harsh, no?
Then the passenger asked "did you see it"?, with the cop arresting him.
For what?
Wrongful, in my eyes.
Don't know about you but i've met some egotistical arrogant cops but something like that isn't called for.

[August]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Well, it seems to me that 1:53 into the video, the cop and the driver were having a discussion about something when the passenger said something, and the cop retorted "you shut your mouth" which was a bit harsh, no?
Then the passenger asked "did you see it"?, with the cop arresting him.
For what?
Wrongful, in my eyes.
Don't know about you but i've met some egotistical arrogant cops but something like that isn't called for.

Well the passenger back talked the cop. Being alone and facing a potential three on one situation the cop restrained him and called for backup. I don't see that rising to the level of wrongful arrest.

[mookiemookie]

Their first mistake was to say anything at all. There are only four things you should ever say to a cop:

1. I don't know why you pulled me over.
2. I do not give you consent to search my car.
3. I have nothing more to say.
4. (if they're knocking on your door) I'd like to see a search warrant.

Anything else and you're giving them stuff to use against you.

[Gerald]

Is it that police suspect the preparation, or see what "is" about to happen, so no need for paper from a judge or similar

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Their first mistake was to say anything at all. There are only four things you should ever say to a cop:

1. I don't know why you pulled me over.
2. I do not give you consent to search my car.
3. I have nothing more to say.
4. (if they're knocking on your door) I'd like to see a search warrant.

Anything else and you're giving them stuff to use against you.

Police Officers: Forever Alone.

[krashkart]

Their first mistake was to say anything at all. There are only four things you should ever say to a cop:

1. I don't know why you pulled me over.
2. I do not give you consent to search my car.
3. I have nothing more to say.
4. (if they're knocking on your door) I'd like to see a search warrant.

Anything else and you're giving them stuff to use against you.

See, I learned it the other way around:

1. Yes sir.
2. No sir.

That's about all that really needs to be said unless giving them a statement. Get mouthy with them over a simple moving violation and you're only asking for trouble.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by August

Well the passenger back talked the cop. Being alone and facing a potential three on one situation the cop restrained him and called for backup. I don't see that rising to the level of wrongful arrest.

I tend to agree going on what I have seen on that link.

The Officer obviously knew at least one of them and as such he gave the guy the opportunity to stop his rhetoric and the guy didn't, so seeing the potential for the scenario to start escalating he took control of the situation and certainly wasn't using excessive force.

[August]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I tend to agree going on what I have seen on that link.

The Officer obviously knew at least one of them and as such he gave the guy the opportunity to stop his rhetoric and the guy didn't, so seeing the potential for the scenario to start escalating he took control of the situation and certainly wasn't using excessive force.

Yep. I think most people don't realize how quickly that kind of situation can turn violent.

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I tend to agree going on what I have seen on that link.

The Officer obviously knew at least one of them and as such he gave the guy the opportunity to stop his rhetoric

For about 2 milliseconds, then he went into roid rage mode.

Originally Posted by August

Yep. I think most people don't realize how quickly that kind of situation can turn violent.

The situation was turned violent - by the policeman.

Imagine how things might have turned out if the officer had actually listened and not gotten into an argument. You know, if he had acted like a professional, and not pointlessly escalated the situation.

I guess that's too much to ask from so many of today's police.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by August

Well the passenger back talked the cop. Being alone and facing a potential three on one situation the cop restrained him and called for backup. I don't see that rising to the level of wrongful arrest.

there was no cause for the cop to yell at him though. He offended him. The cop is professional, he has no right to be barking "hey you shut your mouth". If I said that to a customer I'd be out of a job that same day. Just because he's a cop does not mean he's able to disrespect people.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

there was no cause for the cop to yell at him though. He offended him. The cop is professional, he has no right to be barking "hey you shut your mouth". If I said that to a customer I'd be out of a job that same day. Just because he's a cop does not mean he's able to disrespect people.

That nails it on the head.
The cops SHOULD be professional and tbh the cop lost it in the video.
Just because you're a cop, doesn't mean you can talk down to a citizen. I've seen this many many times.
So many double standards with cops.
The cop in the video was not professional, if he really did feel threatened then there are more professional and respectful ways to handle a situation.
Being a cop gives you a license to lose your cool apparently.