Cameron and Sarkozy hail UK-France defence treaties

Gerald · 11-02-10, 09:49 AM

David Cameron has said new treaties on defence and nuclear co-operation with France marked a "new chapter" in a long history of defence cooperation.Speaking alongside French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the UK PM said it would make both countries' citizens safer and would save money.

A centre will be set up in the UK to develop nuclear testing technology and another in France to carry it out.

The leaders also confirmed plans for a joint army expeditionary force.

After both leaders signed the two treaties, Mr Cameron said: "Today we open a new chapter in a long history of co-operation on defence and security between Britain and France."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11670247

Note:2 November 2010 Last updated at 13:54 GMT

plymouth · 11-02-10, 09:55 AM

first he abandons all our defences now he is leaving all our security up to the french!! I expected more from a tory

Herr-Berbunch · 11-02-10, 10:03 AM

The French are one of the few nations in Europe that I've not served alongside, however, if their low-flying footage on youtube is anything to go by then the pilots, if no-one else, have balls...

Maybe it'll work fine

Maybe we needed this years ago so Bliar wouldn't have been herded into Iraq.

Or maybe it'll all go to the chiens

Jimbuna · 11-02-10, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by plymouth

first he abandons all our defences now he is leaving all our security up to the french!! I expected more from a tory

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

The French are one of the few nations in Europe that I've not served alongside, however, if their low-flying footage on youtube is anything to go by then the pilots, if no-one else, have balls...

Maybe it'll work fine

Maybe we needed this years ago so Bliar wouldn't have been herded into Iraq.

Or maybe it'll all go to the chiens

The French eh?

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

Gerald · 11-02-10, 10:51 AM

Interesting link,

Oberon · 11-02-10, 11:00 AM

My money is on the chiens.

Still, since we don't really have much of a military any more it's either this or wait for the Americans to bail us out, which they won't until at least after 2012.

Herr-Berbunch · 11-02-10, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

The French eh?

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

Fantastic read, thanks Jim. What I wrote was all maybes - I didn't say it was a good thing...

Oberon · 11-02-10, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Fantastic read, thanks Jim. What I wrote was all maybes - I didn't say it was a good thing...

Well, I gotta admit though, their air force do make some fantastic youtube vids, my favourite is Le Mirage du Tchad.

TheSatyr · 11-03-10, 12:35 AM

I do have one question though. If Argentina were to make another grab for the Falklands would the UK have to ask France's permission to defend them???

bookworm_020 · 11-03-10, 03:03 AM

With the french defending the UK your bound to loose now!

The new British defense weapon!

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beau...102-17bx3.html

Jimbuna · 11-03-10, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

With the french defending the UK your bound to loose now!

The new British defense weapon!

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beau...102-17bx3.html

Looks like we're trailing behind you

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(These figures place the UK behind Australia, Mexico and France in the personal hygiene stakes.)

I do hope we're upwind of you

Herr-Berbunch · 11-03-10, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSatyr

I do have one question though. If Argentina were to make another grab for the Falklands would the UK have to ask France's permission to defend them???

No, because we still have Soveriegn rights, just. But the French would still try and sell weaponry to the Argies, just like last time!

papa_smurf · 11-03-10, 05:29 AM

If we now have to share carriers, does that mean they will on a rota? So that means we can only got to war when its our turn with a carrier

XabbaRus · 11-03-10, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

No, because we still have Soveriegn rights, just. But the French would still try and sell weaponry to the Argies, just like last time!

Actually the French refused to sell any spare parts to the argies or anymore exocets to replace those that were used.

They also did DACT with our pilots so they knew what the Mirage was capable of.

sorry but in that case the French are infairly given a bad rap. They helped us politically in ways that the US politicians didn't.

You have to remember that in terms of overseas possesions the French take on the Falklands is remarkably similar to ours.

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Cameron and Sarkozy hail UK-France defence treaties David Cameron has said new treaties on defence and nuclear co-operation with France marked a "new chapter" in a long history of defence cooperation.Speaking alongside French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the UK PM said it would make both countries' citizens safer and would save money. A centre will be set up in the UK to develop nuclear testing technology and another in France to carry it out. The leaders also confirmed plans for a joint army expeditionary force. After both leaders signed the two treaties, Mr Cameron said: "Today we open a new chapter in a long history of co-operation on defence and security between Britain and France." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11670247 Note:2 November 2010 Last updated at 13:54 GMT __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	The French are one of the few nations in Europe that I've not served alongside, however, if their low-flying footage on youtube is anything to go by then the pilots, if no-one else, have balls... Maybe it'll work fine Maybe we needed this years ago so Bliar wouldn't have been herded into Iraq. Or maybe it'll all go to the chiens __________________

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Interesting link, __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	With the french defending the UK your bound to loose now! The new British defense weapon! http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beau...102-17bx3.html __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	My money is on the chiens. Still, since we don't really have much of a military any more it's either this or wait for the Americans to bail us out, which they won't until at least after 2012.

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TheSatyr Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 545 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I do have one question though. If Argentina were to make another grab for the Falklands would the UK have to ask France's permission to defend them???

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papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	If we now have to share carriers, does that mean they will on a rota? So that means we can only got to war when its our turn with a carrier __________________