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Old 05-27-10, 02:33 PM   #1
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In a recent news feed it appears that at least for the time being the oil leak has been capped.

The 'top kill' was sucessfull.

Obama was on the networks within hours to claim credit
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Old 05-27-10, 02:42 PM   #2
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Obama was on the networks within hours to claim credit
Well if it was his idea, why did he take so bloody long to come up with it?
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According to Obama BP is under the fed's direction.

Furthermore its all BP's fault...
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According to Obama BP is under the fed's direction.
Maybe because it affects not just the company but America too?

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Furthermore its all BP's fault...
And they shouldn't be at fault, becaaaause..?
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Maybe because it affects not just the company but America too?



And they shouldn't be at fault, becaaaause..?
WEll the rig was Transocean's and the BOP Halliburton's then they do bear a lot of the blame to. I think this has turned into an opportunity to get BP out of the US market.
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the bigger problem is more how this affects offshore drilling in the long run.

There was the assumption, probably naive on all our parts, that yes, big Oil companies like BP were gouging us, but at least they knew what they were doing.

Now it seems pretty clear that they are pulling a high wire act without a net. This type of accident is bound to happen more regularly has Oil exploration goes deeper and deeper to find new Oil reserves.
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No, really. I do. Even when they're British.

I honestly don't know why or how they put up with the **** government and the press keeps giving them, but I'm glad they do.

In other news, I don't understand why this oil spill is such a big deal. Didn't the Germans sink like, 30 tankers in the Gulf during WW2?
Yeah, they were smaller than modern tankers, but combined they certainly spilled more oil than this rig has. And yet, the Gulf is fine. There's so much marine wildlife in the Gulf that people get their jollies bitching about motorboats running over manatees.

The Mississipi dumps billions of gallons of effluent, soil, and agricultural runoff into the Gulf every year, and yet, the Gulf is fine. It's teeming with life. The biggest problems it has aren't with pollutants, but rather with all the dirt that the Mississipi dumps into the delta. Good ol' Mother Nature personally oversaw that one. I guess she's not an activist.

BP is doing everything they can do to fix this mess and they are doing it in a timely and effective fashion. They're certainly doing more than any activists are. In the meantime there were millions of dollars' worth of crushed BP stock for the taking that could be put to good use by people who supposedly mean well. Did the activists utililize it? Hell no! They're too busy bitching about **** they have no control over and have no understanding of.

Some guy who knew what the hell he was talking about once said "The environment is far too important to be left to environmentalists." He was right. Speaking of which....

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Maybe because it affects not just the company but America too?
I like you, Dowly, but c'mon man. Do you really think BP hasn't thought of that? They have an army of PR personnel whose only job is to make sure they don't piss people off. BP is a lot more concerned with their image than you are. For instance....

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And they shouldn't be at fault, becaaaause..?
They should be at fault, and they know that. Last time I checked BP has spent almost half a billion dollars of its own money trying to contain the spill. The state has spent another $3 billion doing absolutely nothing, apparently. How much have you spent?
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How much have you spent?
None, not my business.
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None, not my business.
Precisely.
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No, really. I do. Even when they're British.
They **** up royally and then finally (hopefully) fix their mistake 37 days later, and for that they should be commended?

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I honestly don't know why or how they put up with the **** government and the press keeps giving them, but I'm glad they do.
My heart bleeds.

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In other news, I don't understand why this oil spill is such a big deal. Didn't the Germans sink like, 30 tankers in the Gulf during WW2?
Yeah, they were smaller than modern tankers, but combined they certainly spilled more oil than this rig has. And yet, the Gulf is fine. There's so much marine wildlife in the Gulf that people get their jollies bitching about motorboats running over manatees.
Were all those tankers sunk simultaneously in the same location, less than 40 miles from shore? Were all of them even carrying oil at the time? Did their spills mostly remain on the surface, or did they originate on the ocean floor so that they could affect the entire water column?
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They **** up royally and then finally (hopefully) fix their mistake 37 days later, and for that they should be commended?
Yes. BP has been quite effective and timely in responding to this spill. They did everything they could, and their stock proves it. When was the last time you willingly invested your hard-earned gains in the governmnet?
I feel sorry for you if you did, because you're not likely to make anything off of bonds.

The nice thing is that they don't ask to be commended, unlike some politicians I can think of. They just do business.

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My heart bleeds.
Why so cynical? BP is made of people, y'know. People and families who depend upon the production of oil for their livelihoods. Those same people sell you the petroleum products you need at a reasonable price.

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Were all those tankers sunk simultaneously in the same location, less than 40 miles from shore? Were all of them even carrying oil at the time? Did their spills mostly remain on the surface, or did they originate on the ocean floor so that they could affect the entire water column?
Many of them were sunk within sight of shore, and they were all sunk within a few months of each other. I don't know whether or not they did more damage than this spill, but what I do know is that the Gulf of Mexico is a huge body of water measuring over 600 quadrillion gallons. It'll be fine, trust me. It doesn't need you to look after it.

The only things that need you to look after the Gulf are political interests who need public approval before they steal your money and give you exactly nothing in trade, aside from a misbegotten warm-fuzzy feeling.

BP and other oil companies care about the Gulf a lot more than you or anyone else does, simply because it is their business. I don't see your eco-crusader ass cleaning up oil residue because you care about the fish or whatever. Where the hell are you, Captain Planet? Are you too busy demanding that other people do things in your stead because someone else told you it was a good idea?

While you're busy sitting on your butt, BP is busy trying to fix their mistake and clean up millions of gallons of seawater, not because anyone forced them to, but because they want to earn your respect and business. I can only imagine how much they must enjoy armchair eco-pundits bashing them for a perfectly understandable mistake.


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Speculation does FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR more to raise prices than the puny tax on oil.
Speculation also drives much of the exploration and exploitation that puts gas in your car for a reasonable price, eco-hero. Unlike speculation, which creates more gas, the fuel tax is about a quarter per gallon of sheer economic dead-weight.

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Last year they used us (The left) like suckers to spread the "Peak Oil" theory to get the public scared and let them jack up the prices.
Did they? If that was true, and you knew it, why aren't you making bank? The Left is a bigger bunch of suckers than you realize. I'd tell you some BS and take your money and votes if I didn't have a conscience. You're lucky that corporations even bother to ask your permission before they take your money, because your beloved state sure as hell doesn't.
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In a recent news feed it appears that at least for the time being the oil leak has been capped.

The 'top kill' was sucessfull.

Obama was on the networks within hours to claim credit


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In a White House news briefing, Obama called the five-week-old BP spill an "economic and environmental tragedy" and said he was frustrated and angry over its duration. Every morning when he's finished shaving, he said, one of his daughters quizzes him: "Did you plug the hole yet, Daddy?"
-Yes honey, I went out with my swim fins and snorkel and plugged it this morning.

-But Daddy, you were out playing basketball this morning.
-Honey, can you go plug daddy's teleprompter in.


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Federal Gas Tax is 18.4 cents a gallon.

The state I live in - NC - has a state tax on gas set at 48.6 cents per gallon.

That means that every gallon of gas I buy, is 67 cents going to someone who hasn't done one thing to actually make the product available. Just so you know - that basically is right near 25% of the cost of a gallon of gas where I live.

25% - and nothing to show for it. And somehow a quadrupling of the federal tax is supposed to make me feel better?

Do you honestly not think that the companies that produce the oil, refine and ship it - and sell it to the local gas stations, are not going to make sure that extra tax is in the price of their product? Do you really think they are all going to feel so bad that they are going to let a 52.6 cent per gallon tax just go against their bottom line?

You HAVE to be kidding me....
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-Yes honey, I went out with my swim fins and snorkel and plugged it this morning.

-But Daddy, you were out playing basketball this morning.
-Honey, can you go plug daddy's teleprompter in.








Going to be interesting when those girls grow up and see what a fool and really just all around bad peson their father is.Unless they are already so brainwashed that it is too late.
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