Anything to be done about aircraft?

The Starfox · 05-24-10, 11:31 AM

Is there anything that can be done to shoot back at aircraft? I'm playing with the GWX mod, and my AA gunners cant hit anything. It hasn't been much of a problem for most of my career, as I was able to evade the once in a blue moon air attack, but its 1943 now and the number of air attacks is definitely stepping up.

I thought once I got the quad 20mm on my type IXD2, that the situation would improve but it hasn't. The shots always seem to be passing too far behind the target aircraft, and thus always missing. I have qualified flak gunners, with full medals and rank, as well as the watch officer with flak qualification, but all to no avail.

So far I have been able to avoid the bullets and bombs through maneuvering at flank speed, but the weight of attack is beginning to tell, is there no chance of hitting an aircraft at all?

maillemaker · 05-24-10, 11:51 AM

It's hard. You do have to lead them.

I have passed the anti-aircraft training in the Naval Academy even with GWX installed where the aircraft are actually armed and able to kill you.

Best chance is at close range when they are diving straight at you, or, just after they made their pass, as they are going straight away.

Steve

sharkbit · 05-24-10, 12:20 PM

The "C" key solves all my problems with aircraft.

RConch · 05-24-10, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbit

The "C" key solves all my problems with aircraft.

As quick as possible.

gordonmull · 05-24-10, 02:19 PM

Yup.

Mash C repeatedly until dive starts.

Brag · 05-24-10, 03:37 PM

Crash dive is your only hope

robbo180265 · 05-24-10, 04:16 PM

I'm sorry but I have to agree - crash dive all the way. Better still, just don't surface during the day

Mittelwaechter · 05-24-10, 04:21 PM

If you want to avoid being bombed - dive. Well they bomb you anyway but you have better chances to survive.

If you have to stay surfaced and want to minimize the bombing effect turn to a perpendicular course of the incoming aircraft. Most divebombers drop good in direction but not in range. Some/many bombs will fall short or pass you. Liberators do an aeral bombing anyway. Your gunners will hit incoming aircrafts but miss those passing you because they fail to lead the target.
You can help your gunners with turning your boat accordingly to compensate their misleading. They may hit the tail empennage.

You may have a chance against one or two attackers but they will cause damage and probably kill some of your men with their guns.

Some aircraft stay close to your boat after their inicial run - especially when hit. If there are no more incoming targets switch to "fire at will" and hope for the best. Sometimes your gunners manage to finish a damaged bee.

Well consider being under fire the whole time.

The Starfox · 05-24-10, 05:28 PM

How grim....

Anyone have any luck firing the guns manually? Ive tried to fire the guns by hand and I think I hit them sometimes, but it seems they take alot of hits as I see some bullet splash on them, but they didn't go down. I tend to be very aggressive in my playing, hard for me to have to dive and hide everytime

I guess I have been lucky so far in dodging attacks, haven't lost any crew yet, but its getting harder.

Is the quad twenty better than the late game upgraded 37mm or dual 37mm?

Leg · 05-24-10, 04:20 PM

If you 'have' to fight against aircrafts, orther the AA to shoot at short range and only at closing targets.
Your chances to shoot a plane down should be a little higher this way, although the best way is just crash diving.

05-24-10, 11:31 AM	#1
The Starfox Watch Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 19 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Anything to be done about aircraft? Is there anything that can be done to shoot back at aircraft? I'm playing with the GWX mod, and my AA gunners cant hit anything. It hasn't been much of a problem for most of my career, as I was able to evade the once in a blue moon air attack, but its 1943 now and the number of air attacks is definitely stepping up. I thought once I got the quad 20mm on my type IXD2, that the situation would improve but it hasn't. The shots always seem to be passing too far behind the target aircraft, and thus always missing. I have qualified flak gunners, with full medals and rank, as well as the watch officer with flak qualification, but all to no avail. So far I have been able to avoid the bullets and bombs through maneuvering at flank speed, but the weight of attack is beginning to tell, is there no chance of hitting an aircraft at all?

05-24-10, 12:20 PM	#3
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	The "C" key solves all my problems with aircraft. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

05-24-10, 03:37 PM	#6
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05-24-10, 04:21 PM	#8
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	If you want to avoid being bombed - dive. Well they bomb you anyway but you have better chances to survive. If you have to stay surfaced and want to minimize the bombing effect turn to a perpendicular course of the incoming aircraft. Most divebombers drop good in direction but not in range. Some/many bombs will fall short or pass you. Liberators do an aeral bombing anyway. Your gunners will hit incoming aircrafts but miss those passing you because they fail to lead the target. You can help your gunners with turning your boat accordingly to compensate their misleading. They may hit the tail empennage. You may have a chance against one or two attackers but they will cause damage and probably kill some of your men with their guns. Some aircraft stay close to your boat after their inicial run - especially when hit. If there are no more incoming targets switch to "fire at will" and hope for the best. Sometimes your gunners manage to finish a damaged bee. Well consider being under fire the whole time. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

05-24-10, 04:20 PM	#10
Leg Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 140 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	If you 'have' to fight against aircrafts, orther the AA to shoot at short range and only at closing targets. Your chances to shoot a plane down should be a little higher this way, although the best way is just crash diving. Last edited by Leg; 05-24-10 at 05:19 PM.

05-24-10, 11:51 AM	#2
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	It's hard. You do have to lead them. I have passed the anti-aircraft training in the Naval Academy even with GWX installed where the aircraft are actually armed and able to kill you. Best chance is at close range when they are diving straight at you, or, just after they made their pass, as they are going straight away. Steve

05-24-10, 02:19 PM	#5
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Yup. Mash C repeatedly until dive starts.

05-24-10, 04:16 PM	#7
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	I'm sorry but I have to agree - crash dive all the way. Better still, just don't surface during the day

05-24-10, 05:28 PM	#9
The Starfox Watch Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 19 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	How grim.... Anyone have any luck firing the guns manually? Ive tried to fire the guns by hand and I think I hit them sometimes, but it seems they take alot of hits as I see some bullet splash on them, but they didn't go down. I tend to be very aggressive in my playing, hard for me to have to dive and hide everytime I guess I have been lucky so far in dodging attacks, haven't lost any crew yet, but its getting harder. Is the quad twenty better than the late game upgraded 37mm or dual 37mm?