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Old 04-19-10, 11:24 AM   #1
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Default Sedition...

Its a long held oft used tactic...

Cant deal with the message? Attack the messingers !

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Time’s Klein: Beck, Palin Potentially Committing Sedition against U.S. Government; Heilemann Adds Limbaugh
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Old 04-19-10, 11:32 AM   #2
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"And Joe's right and I'll name another person, I'll name Rush Limbaugh who uses this phrase constantly and talks about the Obama administration as a regime," Heilemann said. "That phrase which has connotations of tyranny. And what's so interesting about it to me, to get to Norah's point - what is the focus, what is the cause of this? You think back to 1994, there was Ruby Ridge. There was Waco. There were triggering incidents. There's been nothing like that. The only thing that's changed in the last 15 months is the election of Barack Obama. And as far as I can see, in terms of the policies that Obama has implemented, there's nothing."
not to mention that the Bush government was also called a regime, at least here, but I guess it wasn't that different in the US.
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Old 04-19-10, 11:33 AM   #3
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Sedition?

How about Treason?!

The United States Congress is the most Treasonous bunch of bastards this country has seen in a long time.

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Sedition?

How about Treason?!

The United States Congress is the most Treasonous bunch of bastards this country has seen in a long time.

If you have proof of this, I am sure the Attorney General would like to hear about it.
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If you have proof of this, I am sure the Attorney General would like to hear about it.
Actually probably not.
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Old 04-19-10, 05:31 PM   #6
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If you have proof of this, I am sure the Attorney General would like to hear about it.
Well i'll just put it this way... if the following list of infractions dont qualify as Treason against the American People... they should

Our government has done nothing but give industry incentives to to business anywhere BUT America for starters.

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The United States Congress has failed to enact laws which protect and uphold the sovereignty of our great nation further failing to ensure the enforcement of such laws.


The United States Congress has fallen in line with corporate lobbyists, protecting not the interests of the free citizens of these United States, but instead protecting the corporate interests of those private enterprises of business.


The United States Congress has divided itself into a irreparable rift of “left” versus “right” which serves only to split the masses, sending our system of federal legislature into a mentality of complete and total halt of effective governing.


The United States Congress has repeatedly voted itself raises, given itself the best health care, created for itself a decadent and lavish retirement plan while only increasing the tax burden of the American Citizen.


The United States Congress has failed to operate in the good faith of bipartisanship on the smallest of governmental issues.


The United States Congress has split itself into closed doors meetings, inaccessible to the American Citizenry.


The United States Congress has repeatedly passed massive, and unsustainable spending bills which the American economy, no matter how strong, could never hope to sustain in any sense of reality.


The United States Congress has passed bills directly affecting the lifestyle, the freedoms, the happiness, and the liberties of the American Citizenry without the voting representatives being fully familiar with the contents of such bills themselves.


The United States Congress has ignored repeated insistence by the people that our borders be secured and our sovereignty be upheld.


The United States Congress has repeatedly authorized the export of industries vital to the United States of America to foreign shores.


The United States Congress has illegally used treasury funds to bail out failed and corrupted private industries and businesses.


The United States Congress has levied taxes against the American Citizenry while failing to represent our interests through the complete and thorough examination of pieces of legislature before them.


The United States Congress has entrusted oil and fuel production vital to our national security to nations outside of our borders, some of which are openly hostile towards us through subversion and acts of war.
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In other words you have a different opinion on what the government does/should do.

Did I summarize that up correctly?
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I thought it was patriotic to protest your gubmint? Opps, wrong admin.


I think this is how it works:
http://www.forumeter.com/video/18726...illary-Clinton
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So does that mean we can try all the people that wanted to assasinate W then? That would sure thin hollywood's rank.
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I thought it was patriotic to protest your gubmint? Opps, wrong admin.
Protesting is one thing. Advocating armed overthrow of a democratically elected government is sedition.
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An 'armed overthrow' ? WTF
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The question one has to ask.

At what point does "Sedition" become a patriotic defense of one's nation?

after all... experience hath shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

Right?

The United States Congress exists to represent the will of the people - not the other way around.

It is THEY who have committed acts of treason and sedition against this nation.

It is WE the people who are in charge of THEM

they have forgotten this...

and when ANY form of government becomes destructive to these ends it is the right OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR ABOLISH IT

did you pay ANY attention in elementary school?!

what one man might call sedition - another man might call a patriotic duty.

Were not the signers of the declaration of independence guilty of "sedition" or "Treason"?

If such a document were in circulation today to rid ourselves of ALL of these fools in Washington DC... I would pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred duty and sign the Gadamned thing without hesitation.
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^I usually don't get involved in political discussions on subsim (or anywhere else for that matter) but you NAILED it.

I'm also tired of this government and their policy of "rich ruling while the poor masses can f--- off".

THERE WOULD BE NO US GOVERNMENT WITHOUT ITS CITIZENS.
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The question one has to ask.

At what point does "Sedition" become a patriotic defense of one's nation?

after all... experience hath shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

Right?

The United States Congress exists to represent the will of the people - not the other way around.

It is THEY who have committed acts of treason and sedition against this nation.

It is WE the people who are in charge of THEM

they have forgotten this...

and when ANY form of government becomes destructive to these ends it is the right OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR ABOLISH IT

did you pay ANY attention in elementary school?!

what one man might call sedition - another man might call a patriotic duty.

Were not the signers of the declaration of independence guilty of "sedition" or "Treason"?

If such a document were in circulation today to rid ourselves of ALL of these fools in Washington DC... I would pledge my life, my fortune and my sacred duty and sign the Gadamned thing without hesitation.
You have a vote. We run elections. Use it! If you don't like the people in congress, vote them out! You don't get to talk sedition because your guy lost the race.
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