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Old 03-04-10, 01:24 PM   #1
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Default I'm not playing this game.

I know how to recognize a great and immersive game at first sight. Examples: Thief, Fallout 3, Mass Effect.

Silent Hunter 5 is not a great game. It's a very bad one. I've just finished the training mission, and I'm not continuing.

Speed: I can play Crysis and Fallout 3 on maximum detail with a very decent framerate. These games operate with a very large world. You'd think I would cope with a barren submarine interior. NO. Silent Hunter 5 stutters inexplicably.

Movement: Jerky beyond all expectations. Actual movement is delayed to the mouse movement by a significant amount.

GUI: OH MY GOD. What the fsck is this?!

Hotkeys: there are none that I'd need, but there are keys for "1 degree left/right". What the hell?! Some function keys call men to their stations: they just teleport there! This is 2010, how about modeling some ladder climbing movement?!

Patch 1.1: it doesn't find the installed SH5, probably because I've installed into my user directory (where it actually has to be, not in the root directory...).

Despite seeing the possibilities of the game, I'm totally unimmersed.

Until there is an SH3 GUI+hotkey mod, I can't play with this... whatever this is.

UPDATE: now that there's a 3 dials mod and adding SH3 hotkeys turned out to be relatively easy, SH5 becomes almost playable. AI and damage models are still nasty.
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Old 03-04-10, 01:26 PM   #2
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Hotkey mod is already out although it has some minor issues.
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Old 03-04-10, 01:28 PM   #3
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Not a very informative review. I can tell you don't like it, but why? Please explain things like what's wrong with the GUI, please.
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Old 03-04-10, 01:30 PM   #4
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Not a very informative review. I can tell you don't like it, but why? Please explain things like what's wrong with the GUI, please.
Have you played the game ?

Lots of little issues like cant change speed setting with the map open, no compass, etc etc
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Old 03-04-10, 01:34 PM   #5
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Not a very informative review. I can tell you don't like it, but why? Please explain things like what's wrong with the GUI, please.
I'm sorry, my bad for not saying: this is not a review. This is a "first impressions post". And a quick expression of how bad SH5 is

I can't really elaborate on the GUI, because it's hardly a GUI at all, just a stack of iPhone icons thrown at the screen. Nothing WW2-like.
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Old 03-04-10, 01:40 PM   #6
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I can't really elaborate on the GUI, because it's hardly a GUI at all, just a stack of iPhone icons thrown at the screen. Nothing WW2-like.
At first reading that sounds like whining, but I reread it and read it a third time, and it's starting to make more and more sense. Bottom line: The interface should automatically put you in mind of what you're supposed to be playing. Microsoft's flight sim as an option of bringing up a modern interface for any aircraft to help you understand what you're doing in today's terms. The problem is it just never quite feels right.

In their case it's an option. In this case I hope it's easily modable.
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Old 03-04-10, 01:47 PM   #7
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At first reading that sounds like whining, but I reread it and read it a third time, and it's starting to make more and more sense.
Actually I think I was whining I'm too demoralized to write a proper review, but I'll probably do tomorrow.
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Old 03-06-10, 11:17 PM   #8
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... it's hardly a GUI at all, just a stack of iPhone icons thrown at the screen. Nothing WW2-like.
This could be a big part of the problem. The game is going to be available on IPhone soon, so the devs might have been forced into design decisions that mean it can be ported over easily.
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Old 03-07-10, 03:37 PM   #9
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Good news: after disabling shadows, the framerate increased drastically (30-60 fps).

Reimplementing SH3 controls and downloading a lot of mods also helped a lot.

Looks like SH5 will be playable after all
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Old 03-06-10, 07:35 PM   #10
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I know how to recognize a great and immersive game at first sight. Examples: Thief, Fallout 3, Mass Effect.

Silent Hunter 5 is not a great game. It's a very bad one. I've just finished the training mission, and I'm not continuing.

Speed: I can play Crysis and Fallout 3 on maximum detail with a very decent framerate. These games operate with a very large world. You'd think I would cope with a barren submarine interior. NO. Silent Hunter 5 stutters inexplicably.

Movement: Jerky beyond all expectations. Actual movement is delayed to the mouse movement by a significant amount.

GUI: OH MY GOD. What the fsck is this?!

Hotkeys: there are none that I'd need, but there are keys for "1 degree left/right". What the hell?! Some function keys call men to their stations: they just teleport there! This is 2010, how about modeling some ladder climbing movement?!

Patch 1.1: it doesn't find the installed SH5, probably because I've installed into my user directory (where it actually has to be, not in the root directory...).

Despite seeing the possibilities of the game, I'm totally unimmersed.

Until there is an SH3 GUI+hotkey mod, I can't play with this... whatever this is.
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Old 03-06-10, 09:44 PM   #11
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i know how to recognize a great and immersive game at first sight. Examples: Thief, fallout 3, mass effect.

Silent hunter 5 is not a great game. It's a very bad one. I've just finished the training mission, and i'm not continuing.

speed: I can play crysis and fallout 3 on maximum detail with a very decent framerate. These games operate with a very large world. You'd think i would cope with a barren submarine interior. No. Silent hunter 5 stutters inexplicably.

movement: Jerky beyond all expectations. Actual movement is delayed to the mouse movement by a significant amount.

gui: Oh my god. What the fsck is this?!

hotkeys: There are none that i'd need, but there are keys for "1 degree left/right". What the hell?! Some function keys call men to their stations: They just teleport there! This is 2010, how about modeling some ladder climbing movement?!

patch 1.1: It doesn't find the installed sh5, probably because i've installed into my user directory (where it actually has to be, not in the root directory...).

Despite seeing the possibilities of the game, i'm totally unimmersed.

Until there is an sh3 gui+hotkey mod, i can't play with this... Whatever this is.
then go home !!!
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