Completly and utterly horrified

[muppet]

Its been about 2 years since i posted these forums but i have to say a few words about this game.First off i have been playing ever since sh3 so i know a little about these games.

Here goes........... Mostly everyone who had anything to do with this game at ubisoft should hang there heads in shame,This is in almost every way except for the sub model and the water a horrible,horrible mess,I really cant believe that it was released in its current state.Hardly anything works as it should.............I was standing on deck and the damn sub dove with me still outside,could not open the hatch to get back in ,could not use any guns to fire on a merchant ship so had to ram the damn thing out of frustration.Crew dont respond to orders to man the guns.I am so fed up i am going to stop this rant right now,Pissed,What a waste of money i was on 2 minds about getting it and now i am sorry for it,Got hooked looking at the eye candy screenshots.

I can say one thing for sure thats the last cent ubi ever makes off me.I hope they suffer for this one because they deserve nothing more.The game is not worth the disk its printed on.

[sergei]

Wow muppet, I remember some of your posts from way back.

You really feel this pissed off about this?

[Darkreaver1980]

How about more infos? why dont you like it?

for me SH 5 is the best SH game, i already deleted SH 3 + GWX. i dont think i will ever play SH 3+4 again. SH 5 has a much better base to mod on

[Steeltrap]

Originally Posted by Darkreaver1980

How about more infos? why dont you like it?

for me SH 5 is the best SH game, i already deleted SH 3 + GWX. i dont think i will ever play SH 3+4 again. SH 5 has a much better base to mod on

Just curious: have you much experience at modding? I don't know, which is why I ask. If not, I am assuming you're assuming others will clean up any mess, free of charge.

I find it curious how many people pass off all sorts of things with "the modders will fix it", as if that absolves Ubi and the Devs for any responsibility for what people have bought and can play right now.

I think if I were a modder, I'd start charging for my mods. Why not, when so many are prepared to say "Hell, we paid Ubi $50 for this, but it'll be OK once the modders fix it all FOR FREE"?

Cheers

[Herr Graf]

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Just curious: have you much experience at modding? I don't know, which is why I ask. If not, I am assuming you're assuming others will clean up any mess, free of charge.

I find it curious how many people pass off all sorts of things with "the modders will fix it", as if that absolves Ubi and the Devs for any responsibility for what people have bought and can play right now.

I think if I were a modder, I'd start charging for my mods. Why not, when so many are prepared to say "Hell, we paid Ubi $50 for this, but it'll be OK once the modders fix it all FOR FREE"?

Cheers

Agreed.
It does seem rather presumptuous to assume the modders will fix everything (still hoping they do).
I would pay for super mods like GWX for SH5 be sure.

[Hartmann]

Originally Posted by Herr Graf

Agreed.
It does seem rather presumptuous to assume the modders will fix everything (still hoping they do).
I would pay for super mods like GWX for SH5 be sure.

it will take one year or more, assuming that it could be done.

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Just curious: have you much experience at modding? I don't know, which is why I ask. If not, I am assuming you're assuming others will clean up any mess, free of charge.

I find it curious how many people pass off all sorts of things with "the modders will fix it", as if that absolves Ubi and the Devs for any responsibility for what people have bought and can play right now.

I think if I were a modder, I'd start charging for my mods. Why not, when so many are prepared to say "Hell, we paid Ubi $50 for this, but it'll be OK once the modders fix it all FOR FREE"?

Cheers

Absolutely. The modders ARE NOT PAID to fix Ubisoft's screwup.
Making a mod is like making freeware airplanes for FS, etc... Its a labor of love for the game etc... Nothing is due, everything that comes your way is a plus. But you cannot expect people to put their free time and energy to fix something that a commercial entity (Ubsisoft and the devs) should have fixed before release to the paying public. If you think otherwise well your priorities are all screwed up.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Just curious: have you much experience at modding? I don't know, which is why I ask. If not, I am assuming you're assuming others will clean up any mess, free of charge.

I find it curious how many people pass off all sorts of things with "the modders will fix it", as if that absolves Ubi and the Devs for any responsibility for what people have bought and can play right now.

I think if I were a modder, I'd start charging for my mods. Why not, when so many are prepared to say "Hell, we paid Ubi $50 for this, but it'll be OK once the modders fix it all FOR FREE"?

Cheers

Great point, UBI should not release an unfinished product depends on modders to improve the work like in SH 4.

[Seafireliv]

I just dunno. You guys knew it might be buggy which is acceptable, hoping for a patch, but you bought it buggy AND with the 24\7 DRM. So you`re chained too. You can`t even sell to someone else.

When will you guys figure that you get this because UBI can see that you guys keep falling for it. If you don`t demonstrate by not buying, NOTHING will ever improve.

But sure, you`ll bitch and whine, but when SH6 is due for release with an even more stringent DRM and more bugs you`ll still buy.

That`s all UBI needs. They pocket the extra cash and laugh all the way to the bank.

[muppet]

Guys i have to say yes i am really dissapointed to say the least.Hardly anything works..........I expected some minor bugs but this is retarded.
Most of the icons are gone for performing essential commands.I ask the watch officer to man the deck or flak guns no one shows up....and that end dialog thing when talking to someone is pointless and a pain.When damage occurs it is fixed almost as fast as it was posted ,Then the next shot you take your on the bottom of the sea.When looking through the periscope at a ship i have no idea how close it is ....where did range finder go?The only way i know how to steer the ship is to be on the deck and look where i want to go and press the period key or the arrow keys which turns the sub one degree at a time.Why are the rudder controls gone?I have to go inside the sub to dive but my crew are ok with drowning?

I have been watching and reading everything about this game for awhile now and could'nt wait for it ........what a kick in the guts.Whoever is in charge at ubi for giving the thumbs on this game to be released in this condition should be fired.

Captain muppet has gone down with the ship.

[sergei]

OK fair enough muppet.
Thanks for your response.
I admit I am struggling to like it myself.

[Florent]

It seems that many things working for many people don't work for others.
Did you read the manual ?
Is the manual badly written ?
I play Subsims since Silent Service in 1987, and i know that the game will be different. The old habits or abstraction will no longer be there.
It's perhaps too early but i think i will like it a lot since it will have plenty of feature i would have like 23 years ago.

[Yorktown_Class]

im so glad i didn't jump on the buy now bandwagon,I guess I will be sticking to SH3 and 4 for the near future..

[Therion_Prime]

Originally Posted by muppet

.When looking through the periscope at a ship i have no idea how close it is ....where did range finder go?The only way i know how to steer the ship is to be on the deck and look where i want to go and press the period key or the arrow keys which turns the sub one degree at a time.Why are the rudder controls gone?

But you DO know thet there is a turn to my heading key? No? Press F1 and you'll see to which key it's bound to. Works like a charm and lets you move exactly where you want. If you want to turn to a heading, simply use "turn hard port/starboard" (yes, press F1 again to see the key combination!) and "rudder amidships" (F1) and use the compass in the control room.

Not reading the manual and then complaining .....

[Charlie901]

Originally Posted by Therion_Prime

But you DO know thet there is a turn to my heading key? No? Press F1 and you'll see to which key it's bound to. Works like a charm and lets you move exactly where you want. If you want to turn to a heading, simply use "turn hard port/starboard" (yes, press F1 again to see the key combination!) and "rudder amidships" (F1) and use the compass in the control room.

Not reading the manual and then complaining .....

Could you please explain to me how to do this when submerged, Eienstein...???