The Press Blasts Ubisoft!

Brag · 02-04-10, 09:34 AM

IT IS MUCH WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT:
Latest update:

Why Ubisoft DRM for Assassin's Creed 2 has outraged gamers / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/p/46855/350422.aspx

PC Gamer Blog: Constant net connection required to play Assassin's Creed 2 on PC - PC Gamer Magazine

Here are some links to what the experts say about Ubisoft's DRM/OSP

Ubisoft touts games drm - The Inquirer
Ubisoft's new DRM solution: you have be online to play

New Ubisoft DRM requires Internet connection - The Tech Report

Ubisoft Goes DRM-Free for Old Games

The Escapist : Experienced Points: Activation Bomb

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...35596&site=pcg

Game Developers Skeptical About Ubisoft’s New DRM | TorrentFreak
Extracted from Gamelatest preview:

Another annoying thing is the need to be hooked to internet to play SH5. The preview copy would freeze if the internet connection was lost, and to launch the game, I had to logon to Ubisoft services first!

Letum · 02-04-10, 09:42 AM

Ubi is taking broadsides. I hope some are hitting below the waterline.

urfisch · 02-04-10, 09:45 AM

nice...but i do not understand, that low quality games, with lots of bugs in it, are not beeing mentioned. and these buggy games, with bad support, are one of ubis greatest problems. not the drm is...

brandtryan · 02-04-10, 09:47 AM

Well said, Letum.

Sailor Steve · 02-04-10, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Ubi is taking broadsides. I hope some are hitting below the waterline.

I disagree. I want the hits to be to the bridge. Rather have them get the message up close and personal than have them sink.

Hey, your simile, not mine!

The Enigma · 02-04-10, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I disagree. I want the hits to be to the bridge. Rather have them get the message up close and personal than have them sink.

Me neither, but it will be hard to survive if they insist to go down that road.

02-04-10, 02:46 PM

i do not "want" UBI to fail but if they are now a company that has decided to stop listening to its customers then isnt that a good reason for them to fail?

if it does happen then all we can hope for is that a better run company can take over their intelectual property (big word for the games they own) and really give the customers a product the customers want to buy.

in my mind once a company decides "they know better then you" and start telling you that what they want is what you should want then they are doomed to fail and its time for new management or the company to fail?

its how and why buisnesses fail and get taken over every day.

in buisness its very simple, you keep your customers happy and they will be loyal and keep spending money on your games, you show customers you dont care what they want and they will stop buying your games, loyalties go out the window, and the company pays a severe financial penalty that may or may not lead to the companies downfall.

JSLTIGER · 02-04-10, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Ubi is taking broadsides. I hope some are hitting below the waterline.

Hope it's coming at them in the form of a projectile from one of an Iowa's guns. Nothing like a 2700 lb. shell coming at you at 2690 ft/s to scare the bejeezus out of you.

Undefined · 02-07-10, 09:08 AM

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UrPeaceKeeper · 02-07-10, 01:37 PM

It's nice to see that Ubi will take some serious flak for their serious incompetance about the whole DRM issue. What they do need to realize is that a lot of piracy issues can be thwarted by simply releasing a Demo. I know a few friends who only download games, play em for an hour and then decide if the game is worth buying or not. Some of them play it longer but still, a DEMO with full features and a single mission or whatever goes a long way in helping your game. I, like most people, choose to make educated purchases and video games are no exception, and it's very difficult to make purchases based off of game play videos which are meant to highlight the platform. SH5 is NO different, the absolute lack of answers from Devs about the game and almost disturbingly bad game play videos make this a close no purchase. I will probably buy this, just to see if all this negative press is well founded, I can assure you that a single U-boat game is already a turn off for me.

And to those who will simply buy console versions of games, please remember you are perpetuating the death of PC gaming and supporting what truely is an inferrior method of game play for the majority of games that are not FPS games or racing/flight simulators which seem to be the few games that excel on consoles. Thats my opinion, take it how you like, but I can't stand consoles.

HundertzehnGustav · 02-07-10, 01:59 PM

flight simulators excel on consolesq? did i get that right?

Lord Biceps · 02-07-10, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrPeaceKeeper

It's nice to see that Ubi will take some serious flak for their serious incompetance about the whole DRM issue. What they do need to realize is that a lot of piracy issues can be thwarted by simply releasing a Demo. I know a few friends who only download games, play em for an hour and then decide if the game is worth buying or not. Some of them play it longer but still, a DEMO with full features and a single mission or whatever goes a long way in helping your game. I, like most people, choose to make educated purchases and video games are no exception, and it's very difficult to make purchases based off of game play videos which are meant to highlight the platform. SH5 is NO different, the absolute lack of answers from Devs about the game and almost disturbingly bad game play videos make this a close no purchase. I will probably buy this, just to see if all this negative press is well founded, I can assure you that a single U-boat game is already a turn off for me.

And to those who will simply buy console versions of games, please remember you are perpetuating the death of PC gaming and supporting what truely is an inferrior method of game play for the majority of games that are not FPS games or racing/flight simulators which seem to be the few games that excel on consoles. Thats my opinion, take it how you like, but I can't stand consoles.

I agree completely. Consoles have absolutely destroyed gaming by forcing developers to cater to the drooling masses in order to make money. The last straw was Civilization, a series I've played since the beginning, and which have always seen a new game within 5 years. Well, 5 years have soon passed, and not a single word on a new installment. Instead, they released some utterly cretinous X-box abomination, and now, apparently, a FACEBOOK version! Give me a break! If Civilization isn't a PC game to the core, I don't know what is!

Console players have lower intelligence, that's a proven fact.

flag4 · 02-04-10, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag

Here are some links to what the experts say about Ubisoft's DRM/OSP

Ubisoft touts games drm - The Inquirer
Ubisoft's new DRM solution: you have be online to play

New Ubisoft DRM requires Internet connection - The Tech Report

its interesting that the ubisoft spokesman tells how wonderful everything will be - but i want to store my saved games on my computer. i will not be accessing the game from a 100 different ones - or playing online. it is my game, played by me.

they all sound like politicians accentuating a particular kind of positive, but who's positive is it, their's or ours?

Ragtag · 02-04-10, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flag4

its interesting that the ubisoft spokesman tells how wonderful everything will be - but i want to store my saved games on my computer. i will not be accessing the game from a 100 different ones - or playing online. it is my game, played by me.

they all sound like politicians accentuating a particular kind of positive, but who's positive is it, their's or ours?

Propanda. Ubi think they will get away with it just because they let people install it on unlimited number of PC's and that there will be no on-disc DRM. Someone just shot themselves in the foot. Who the hell wants a game that's gonna pause everytime the players connection drops below required speed or just disconnects. LOL... like watching a movie with the unfriendly neighbour sitting with the remotecontrol :P

janh · 02-04-10, 10:49 AM

fanny-tastic. The more wind blows into UBI's faces, the more likely they will rethink their strategy. Although at this point I'd much more like to see it backfire to a degree that finishes UBI as a bad example for a company that failed to realize that DRM does as much bad as good... Seems like most companies these days row in the opposite direction!

Why doesn't the SH developer studio find a new distributor now that also given them more time to complete features, and not shoot out half-finished products with a single sub and no full-war campaign? Or at least annouce those as forthcoming addons already to calm the waves? They should already start thinking about suing UBI for the sales they'll loose...

Anyway, I thought about the new campaign and since it is obviously not a flexible system where you could quickly change your Patrouliengebiet to a different region, say if the Mediterranean gets boring, it is a MISSION oriented game. Not a real campaign, but broken up. Do I get that right?

02-04-10, 09:34 AM	#1
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The Press Blasts Ubisoft! IT IS MUCH WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT: Latest update: Why Ubisoft DRM for Assassin's Creed 2 has outraged gamers / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/p/46855/350422.aspx PC Gamer Blog: Constant net connection required to play Assassin's Creed 2 on PC - PC Gamer Magazine Here are some links to what the experts say about Ubisoft's DRM/OSP Ubisoft touts games drm - The Inquirer Ubisoft's new DRM solution: you have be online to play New Ubisoft DRM requires Internet connection - The Tech Report Ubisoft Goes DRM-Free for Old Games The Escapist : Experienced Points: Activation Bomb http://www.computerandvideogames.com...35596&site=pcg Game Developers Skeptical About Ubisoft’s New DRM \| TorrentFreak Extracted from Gamelatest preview: Another annoying thing is the need to be hooked to internet to play SH5. The preview copy would freeze if the internet connection was lost, and to launch the game, I had to logon to Ubisoft services first! __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/ Last edited by Brag; 02-23-10 at 10:54 AM.

02-04-10, 09:42 AM	#2
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Ubi is taking broadsides. I hope some are hitting below the waterline. __________________

02-04-10, 09:45 AM	#3
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	nice...but i do not understand, that low quality games, with lots of bugs in it, are not beeing mentioned. and these buggy games, with bad support, are one of ubis greatest problems. not the drm is... __________________

02-04-10, 09:47 AM	#4
brandtryan Engineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indianapolis, United States Posts: 214 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Well said, Letum. __________________ from Brandt

02-07-10, 01:59 PM	#11
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	flight simulators excel on consolesq? did i get that right? __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

02-04-10, 02:46 PM	#7
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	i do not "want" UBI to fail but if they are now a company that has decided to stop listening to its customers then isnt that a good reason for them to fail? if it does happen then all we can hope for is that a better run company can take over their intelectual property (big word for the games they own) and really give the customers a product the customers want to buy. in my mind once a company decides "they know better then you" and start telling you that what they want is what you should want then they are doomed to fail and its time for new management or the company to fail? its how and why buisnesses fail and get taken over every day. in buisness its very simple, you keep your customers happy and they will be loyal and keep spending money on your games, you show customers you dont care what they want and they will stop buying your games, loyalties go out the window, and the company pays a severe financial penalty that may or may not lead to the companies downfall.

02-07-10, 09:08 AM	#9
Undefined Gunner Join Date: May 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 97 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	....

02-07-10, 01:37 PM	#10
UrPeaceKeeper Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	It's nice to see that Ubi will take some serious flak for their serious incompetance about the whole DRM issue. What they do need to realize is that a lot of piracy issues can be thwarted by simply releasing a Demo. I know a few friends who only download games, play em for an hour and then decide if the game is worth buying or not. Some of them play it longer but still, a DEMO with full features and a single mission or whatever goes a long way in helping your game. I, like most people, choose to make educated purchases and video games are no exception, and it's very difficult to make purchases based off of game play videos which are meant to highlight the platform. SH5 is NO different, the absolute lack of answers from Devs about the game and almost disturbingly bad game play videos make this a close no purchase. I will probably buy this, just to see if all this negative press is well founded, I can assure you that a single U-boat game is already a turn off for me. And to those who will simply buy console versions of games, please remember you are perpetuating the death of PC gaming and supporting what truely is an inferrior method of game play for the majority of games that are not FPS games or racing/flight simulators which seem to be the few games that excel on consoles. Thats my opinion, take it how you like, but I can't stand consoles.

02-04-10, 10:49 AM	#15
janh Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 349 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	... fanny-tastic. The more wind blows into UBI's faces, the more likely they will rethink their strategy. Although at this point I'd much more like to see it backfire to a degree that finishes UBI as a bad example for a company that failed to realize that DRM does as much bad as good... Seems like most companies these days row in the opposite direction! Why doesn't the SH developer studio find a new distributor now that also given them more time to complete features, and not shoot out half-finished products with a single sub and no full-war campaign? Or at least annouce those as forthcoming addons already to calm the waves? They should already start thinking about suing UBI for the sales they'll loose... Anyway, I thought about the new campaign and since it is obviously not a flexible system where you could quickly change your Patrouliengebiet to a different region, say if the Mediterranean gets boring, it is a MISSION oriented game. Not a real campaign, but broken up. Do I get that right?