External reloads

mookiemookie · 10-09-09, 08:46 AM

It would be nice to see these treated with a bit more realism than they were in SH3. Being unable to dive while the crew has a winch set up to lower the reloads would be a nice touch. Not being able to move torpedos below while in storms or heavy seas would also make sense.

I guess I'd like to see something a bit more realistic than just having a % progress bar that stops when you dive and picks up where it left off when you surface.

Onkel Neal · 10-09-09, 08:52 AM

Oh yes, that would be a significant improvement, the gameplay changes would be nice. One would have to plan the external reloads carefully and suffer the consequences if they are caught on the surface during a reload.

mookiemookie · 10-09-09, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Oh yes, that would be a significant improvement, the gameplay changes would be nice. One would have to plan the external reloads carefully and suffer the consequences if they are caught on the surface during a reload.

I was thinking of the torpedo load on the Cavalla while writing this post. I sure would have hated to have been jumped by Zeros while wrestling with those monsters!

Dowly · 10-09-09, 09:55 AM

Would be nice to see them reload them too. Sweating in some remote area in the Caribbean, wearing only boxers... then I'd dive and let them drown for bringing homoerotic vibes to my boat.

oscar19681 · 10-09-09, 11:44 AM

How about taking it even a step further! How about visual implenetation of loading the external tubes! I mean it would be kind of weird not having anything happen in the external view when loading an external tube with the the possibilaty,s many sim,s have these days. I always felt that there was something weird about the fact there was nothing happening in external view when getting me external tubes loaded.

rosentorf · 10-09-09, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I guess I'd like to see something a bit more realistic than just having a % progress bar that stops when you dive and picks up where it left off when you surface.

An option to throw the torpedo that is currently being loaded overboard in an emergency so you can dive quicker. However that would require a precise model of the loading as it might be quicker to finish loading the current torpedo instead of just ditching it. There could be the choice between finishing loading or just throwing it overboard depending on the state of loading the current torpedo is in.

EDIT: you know whichever is quicker. like: a) dump torpedo 20 seconds b) finish loading 75 seconds

Alex · 10-09-09, 02:00 PM

@ Dowly : Great idea.

And especially fine sig.

TarJak · 10-09-09, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

@ Dowly : Great idea.

And especially fine sig.

@Alex,

I dunno that Dowly having homoerotic vibes on his boat is a good idea.

oscar19681 · 10-09-09, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rosentorf

An option to throw the torpedo that is currently being loaded overboard in an emergency so you can dive quicker. However that would require a precise model of the loading as it might be quicker to finish loading the current torpedo instead of just ditching it. There could be the choice between finishing loading or just throwing it overboard depending on the state of loading the current torpedo is in.

EDIT: you know whichever is quicker. like: a) dump torpedo 20 seconds b) finish loading 75 seconds

When all fails MAN THE FLAK GUN! and if its a destroyer MAN THE DECK GUN!

Alex · 10-09-09, 02:18 PM

@ TJ : the good idea lies in the option to be able to drown them all.

10-09-09, 08:38 PM

Carrying externals should, preferrably (en sp?), be optional, or be discontinued at the proper historic time.
Especialy if BDU is going take a more active role.
f.eks.: Southwest of Island 1944. Type IXB.
All internals expended.
BDU still treats one as though there is available ordnance?!?
That should certainly be an easy fix.

mookiemookie · 10-09-09, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

Carrying externals should, preferrably (en sp?), be optional, or be discontinued at the proper historic time.
Especialy if BDU is going take a more active role.
f.eks.: Southwest of Island 1944. Type IXB.
All internals expended.
BDU still treats one as though there is available ordnance?!?
That should certainly be an easy fix.

True. After 43 and into 44 it was not allowed.

Akula4745 · 10-11-09, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It would be nice to see these treated with a bit more realism than they were in SH3. Being unable to dive while the crew has a winch set up to lower the reloads would be a nice touch. Not being able to move torpedos below while in storms or heavy seas would also make sense.

I guess I'd like to see something a bit more realistic than just having a % progress bar that stops when you dive and picks up where it left off when you surface.

Great idea, sir! I agree completely you should not be able to dive in the middle of an external reload... and storms/rough seas.

Hartmann · 10-11-09, 06:21 PM

This can add a lot of realism to the game and in late years could be impossible to reload by the danger of enemy planes, i can imagine the scene, the plane diving at full speed firing with guns and rockets, and the submarine with a ton fish on the deck the hatch open and the crane mounted.

This also can limited a lot the advantage of big boats in the war if externals are not used, it means 10 less torpedoes , 12 in total compared with 14 of the VII type .

one thing that US fleet boats manage a lot better

FIREWALL · 10-11-09, 06:43 PM

You could get fuel from another U-boot later in the war as well as a U-tanker.

But later in war Torps were another matter no matter if the ocean was glass and there wasn't a plane for 1000 mi.

Edit: Plane wise wasn't likely.

10-09-09, 08:46 AM	#1
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	External reloads It would be nice to see these treated with a bit more realism than they were in SH3. Being unable to dive while the crew has a winch set up to lower the reloads would be a nice touch. Not being able to move torpedos below while in storms or heavy seas would also make sense. I guess I'd like to see something a bit more realistic than just having a % progress bar that stops when you dive and picks up where it left off when you surface. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

10-09-09, 08:52 AM	#2
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Oh yes, that would be a significant improvement, the gameplay changes would be nice. One would have to plan the external reloads carefully and suffer the consequences if they are caught on the surface during a reload. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

10-09-09, 11:44 AM	#5
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	How about taking it even a step further! How about visual implenetation of loading the external tubes! I mean it would be kind of weird not having anything happen in the external view when loading an external tube with the the possibilaty,s many sim,s have these days. I always felt that there was something weird about the fact there was nothing happening in external view when getting me external tubes loaded. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

10-09-09, 02:00 PM	#7
Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	@ Dowly : Great idea. And especially fine sig. __________________

10-09-09, 02:18 PM	#10
Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	@ TJ : the good idea lies in the option to be able to drown them all. __________________

10-09-09, 09:55 AM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Would be nice to see them reload them too. Sweating in some remote area in the Caribbean, wearing only boxers... then I'd dive and let them drown for bringing homoerotic vibes to my boat.

10-09-09, 08:38 PM	#11
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Carrying externals should, preferrably (en sp?), be optional, or be discontinued at the proper historic time. Especialy if BDU is going take a more active role. f.eks.: Southwest of Island 1944. Type IXB. All internals expended. BDU still treats one as though there is available ordnance?!? That should certainly be an easy fix.

10-11-09, 06:21 PM	#14
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	This can add a lot of realism to the game and in late years could be impossible to reload by the danger of enemy planes, i can imagine the scene, the plane diving at full speed firing with guns and rockets, and the submarine with a ton fish on the deck the hatch open and the crane mounted. This also can limited a lot the advantage of big boats in the war if externals are not used, it means 10 less torpedoes , 12 in total compared with 14 of the VII type . one thing that US fleet boats manage a lot better __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor Last edited by Hartmann; 10-11-09 at 06:42 PM.

10-11-09, 06:43 PM	#15
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	You could get fuel from another U-boot later in the war as well as a U-tanker. But later in war Torps were another matter no matter if the ocean was glass and there wasn't a plane for 1000 mi. Edit: Plane wise wasn't likely. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???