Wolfpacks and escorts

bookworm_020 · 08-19-09, 07:07 PM

I really hope that SH5 has wolfpacks in the game. It's been so lonely out there at sea with no one to help you attack the enemy. GWX team did wonders to give us what they did, but it would be nice to have it in the game from day one.

Also being able to radio for an escort into port would be nice (was in SH3 originally, but removed due to problems when patched) From 43' it would be a welcome hand against air attacks

Stealth Hunter · 08-19-09, 07:13 PM

I'd say they'll probably address this problem in SH5 simply because we've been playing- for the past few years-- without any submarine allies actually torpedoing and sinking enemy ships. Surely they wouldn't overlook it again... right?

TarJak · 08-20-09, 12:25 AM

Yes yes yes. This has to be in SH5 or I'm not buying it.

Well...

Sledgehammer427 · 08-20-09, 12:56 AM

well, heres the thing, many wolfpack attacks were horribly coordinated. I think it coulda been done in both SH3 and 4 if it wasnt for the fact we would HATE seeing someone else get our kill!

Valantine · 08-20-09, 02:23 AM

Yes AI "kill stealing" would happen at times, however I think in a primarily single player game such as the SH series I could cope with it happening on occasions - even against capital ships I suppse!
The benefits of having wolfpack attacks would certainly out weigh the occasional lost kill, no more would I be the sole sub attacking a large convoy with 8 destroyers in escort!

This would also open up the chance to witness friendly subs being destroyed or evading the enemy - knowing my luck an underwater accident woudl like ensure at the first chance I encounter a friendly sub!

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JU_88 · 08-20-09, 08:45 AM

Let us not forget that Hostile Subs and PT boats also need torpedo launching capabilities.

one of the worst things about the last two SH games was the player being the only operational sub in the entire world, (the IJN subs in Sh4 dont count - as they were just eye candy)
Even ancient ol Sh II had AI subs, So its really not asking for much.

Royal Navy Subs sank around 30 Uboats and encountered / attacked god knows how many.

difool2 · 08-20-09, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

well, heres the thing, many wolfpack attacks were horribly coordinated. I think it coulda been done in both SH3 and 4 if it wasnt for the fact we would HATE seeing someone else get our kill!

I see these posts here all the time, whining that a Condor swooped in and "stole" their kill-but wouldn't you be proud to be part of a team? I personally wouldn't mind seeing AI friendlies get their shots in, as for me a ship sunk is a ship sunk, and thus helps our side win. And now with the campaign apparently even more dynamic than before, your allies sinking something might help you indirectly down the road. Never understood this selfish mentality.

JU_88 · 08-20-09, 09:56 AM

Dont care if friendly planes / subs / ships steal my kills.
WW2 was Axis vs Allies - not a lone Uboat vs Allies, (otherwise it would have been a very short war..

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Hartmann · 08-21-09, 11:16 PM

An important feature, Ia subs able to dive and attack !

FIREWALL · 08-22-09, 12:34 AM

All the above.

08-19-09, 07:07 PM	#1
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Wolfpacks and escorts I really hope that SH5 has wolfpacks in the game. It's been so lonely out there at sea with no one to help you attack the enemy. GWX team did wonders to give us what they did, but it would be nice to have it in the game from day one. Also being able to radio for an escort into port would be nice (was in SH3 originally, but removed due to problems when patched) From 43' it would be a welcome hand against air attacks __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

08-20-09, 12:56 AM	#4
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	well, heres the thing, many wolfpack attacks were horribly coordinated. I think it coulda been done in both SH3 and 4 if it wasnt for the fact we would HATE seeing someone else get our kill! __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

08-20-09, 02:23 AM	#5
Valantine Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 193 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Yes AI "kill stealing" would happen at times, however I think in a primarily single player game such as the SH series I could cope with it happening on occasions - even against capital ships I suppse! The benefits of having wolfpack attacks would certainly out weigh the occasional lost kill, no more would I be the sole sub attacking a large convoy with 8 destroyers in escort! This would also open up the chance to witness friendly subs being destroyed or evading the enemy - knowing my luck an underwater accident woudl like ensure at the first chance I encounter a friendly sub! V __________________ ARMA 3 Co-Op Battalion Recruiting Worldwide http://www.iijg53.com

08-21-09, 11:16 PM	#9
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	An important feature, Ia subs able to dive and attack ! __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

08-22-09, 12:34 AM	#10
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	All the above. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-19-09, 07:13 PM	#2
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'd say they'll probably address this problem in SH5 simply because we've been playing- for the past few years-- without any submarine allies actually torpedoing and sinking enemy ships. Surely they wouldn't overlook it again... right?

08-20-09, 12:25 AM	#3
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Yes yes yes. This has to be in SH5 or I'm not buying it. Well...

08-20-09, 08:45 AM	#6
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Let us not forget that Hostile Subs and PT boats also need torpedo launching capabilities. one of the worst things about the last two SH games was the player being the only operational sub in the entire world, (the IJN subs in Sh4 dont count - as they were just eye candy) Even ancient ol Sh II had AI subs, So its really not asking for much. Royal Navy Subs sank around 30 Uboats and encountered / attacked god knows how many.

08-20-09, 09:56 AM	#8
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Dont care if friendly planes / subs / ships steal my kills. WW2 was Axis vs Allies - not a lone Uboat vs Allies, (otherwise it would have been a very short war.. )