Why is voice command unpopular?

zenmaster · 08-19-09, 01:36 PM

Hi All,

Lack of forum search hits on voice command tells me it's not used.

Is it because 50% of the commands are sub menus that don't have keyboard mappings?

I would rather use a voice command utility that I can move to other sims.

All voice utilities are from the windows 98 era?

Hanomag · 08-19-09, 03:08 PM

Welcome Aboard Herr Kaluen!!

Actually last VC I knew of was AoD (Aces of the Deep) circa 95ish and was for Windows 95. And it never worked right..for me anyways.

Zilch · 08-19-09, 05:42 PM

I think it was available in Bridge Commander, for you fellow Star Trek fans, in about 2000-2001. Never tried it, myself, so who knows how well it worked? You'd think it'd be pretty involving. Verbally commanding, "ahead flank" or "warp factor eight," and having it work, would be...all kinds of awesome.

Hanomag · 08-19-09, 06:34 PM

Think of VC on your cellphone...

"Call Debbie"

"Did you say Call Dorothy?"

Sooo..

"Surface!"

"Did you say Dive!"

Spike88 · 08-19-09, 10:06 PM

I don't know. If they had a training part, where you would have to say each command one by one so it recognizes your voice, it would actually work.
Just like with the Vista program, that lets you use your voice to do certain things, or Rosetta stone.

I think its more along the lines of, because its had a bad history, people seem to shy away from it.

Plus, most people dont want to look like a dork talking to the computer. lol

Schöneboom · 08-19-09, 10:39 PM

I used to be quite enthusiastic about Game Commander, a voice app that you can "train" -- and I used it to run SH3 with German commands. Eventually I felt it was more trouble than it was worth. It required that I use the headset instead of my speakers, because of the constant risk of the crew voices triggering commands (even loud sound effects could be interpreted as commands!)

Mach's gut,
Wayne

GoldenRivet · 08-20-09, 03:14 AM

i have used "shoot" with some fairly high degree of success in the past... however i have found that it is a lot faster for me to just click the icons and speed telegraph and push keyboard keys.

zenmaster · 08-20-09, 12:04 PM

Thanks for the input.

I'll avoid it due to complexity and weird factor when discussing with friends.

From "40 year old virgin" reference.
You know how I know your gay? When you set up voice command and talk to your games?????

Salute!

PappyCain · 08-20-09, 12:43 PM

I have used voice commands very effectively with flight combat sims where I fly strictly in-cockpit. If you "push to talk" or key the mic you will get excellent response over an 'open mic'. Yes, it adds to the immersion and for hard to find keys it if fantastic IMHO. It works well in MP with select commands. Whatever floats your boat!

FIREWALL · 08-20-09, 12:51 PM

I use "Voice Commands" all the time.

Hey Honey... Will you get me another beer.

Spike88 · 08-21-09, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I use "Voice Commands" all the time.

Hey Honey... Will you get me another beer.

:rotfl:
Does it work all the time?

KeybdFlyer · 08-21-09, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I use "Voice Commands" all the time.

Hey Honey... Will you get me another beer.

Technically of course, this is a request not a command. Note the use of the words "Will you..."

I have tried omitting those words altogether and employing a movie-style WWII German officer tone of voice, which has had the effect of reducing me to preparing my own meals all damn week and an almost total curtailment of bedroom activity (unless you count changing the sheets & pillow-cases

) At least I am now experiencing to the full the joys of life á la U-Boot crews on patrol!

Red Heat · 08-22-09, 11:27 AM

[QUOTE=FIREWALL;1155050]I use "Voice Commands" all the time.

Hey Honey... Will you get me another beer.

[/QUOTE

ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

jollyroger131 · 03-06-10, 03:48 PM

I recently discovered VR Commander voice recognition software, link, and I love it! It's got a simple interface and lets you create your own profiles to use voice commands to activate keystrokes and macros. Best of all, it uses its own built-in voice recognition engine (which works extremely well and doesn’t need training) and doesn't require Microsoft's SR. The only downside is it's $10 to buy a full license (though you can try it for 15 days free).

I've got it working for other games like Battlefield 1942 (yes I'm old school), but for some reason it doesn't work with SH3. It runs in the background like it should while the game is running, but I say a command and SH3 doesn't respond at all. And yes I'm sure VR Commander is working - tested in notepad that the commands are activating keys, etc.

I'm thinking it's something to do with either 1) SH3's Commands_en config file using "virtual key codes" (such as 0x33 for "3") instead of standard key codes or 2) DirectX not allowing the simulated keystrokes into the game - something about order of inputs.

If anyone out there, like me, finds VR Commander so good that it's worth getting it working with SH3, I'd appreciate the help.

GoldenRivet · 08-20-09, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PappyCain

I have used voice commands very effectively with flight combat sims where I fly strictly in-cockpit. If you "push to talk" or key the mic you will get excellent response over an 'open mic'. Yes, it adds to the immersion and for hard to find keys it if fantastic IMHO. It works well in MP with select commands. Whatever floats your boat!

thats where i have had the most success with voice command stuff.

I had a lot of custom voice commands set up for my combat flight simulator, and i almost never had to repeat my commands.

it was a lot of fun saying something like "Red Section Attack the Bombers." and those wingmen would respond and peel off and go to work. then "Blue Section Attack Fighters." and they would peel off and go after the fighters. just for example.

that way you dont have to go looking for keyboard combination mid fight because some of those air battles can be fast paced - you never have to go "heads down"

08-19-09, 01:36 PM	#1
zenmaster Nub Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Springfield, VA USA Posts: 4 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Why is voice command unpopular? Hi All, Lack of forum search hits on voice command tells me it's not used. Is it because 50% of the commands are sub menus that don't have keyboard mappings? I would rather use a voice command utility that I can move to other sims. All voice utilities are from the windows 98 era?

08-19-09, 03:08 PM	#2
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Welcome Aboard Herr Kaluen!! Actually last VC I knew of was AoD (Aces of the Deep) circa 95ish and was for Windows 95. And it never worked right..for me anyways. __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

08-19-09, 05:42 PM	#3
Zilch Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 118 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I think it was available in Bridge Commander, for you fellow Star Trek fans, in about 2000-2001. Never tried it, myself, so who knows how well it worked? You'd think it'd be pretty involving. Verbally commanding, "ahead flank" or "warp factor eight," and having it work, would be...all kinds of awesome. __________________ Depth charges pounding your flanges loose? Hedgehogs dislodging your precious bulkheads? Use Beemans Gum! Freshens breath and doubles as an adhesive in a pinch. The gum of choice aboard U-54!

08-19-09, 06:34 PM	#4
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Think of VC on your cellphone... "Call Debbie" "Did you say Call Dorothy?" Sooo.. "Surface!" "Did you say Dive!" __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

08-19-09, 10:06 PM	#5
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I don't know. If they had a training part, where you would have to say each command one by one so it recognizes your voice, it would actually work. Just like with the Vista program, that lets you use your voice to do certain things, or Rosetta stone. I think its more along the lines of, because its had a bad history, people seem to shy away from it. Plus, most people dont want to look like a dork talking to the computer. lol __________________

08-19-09, 10:39 PM	#6
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I used to be quite enthusiastic about Game Commander, a voice app that you can "train" -- and I used it to run SH3 with German commands. Eventually I felt it was more trouble than it was worth. It required that I use the headset instead of my speakers, because of the constant risk of the crew voices triggering commands (even loud sound effects could be interpreted as commands!) Mach's gut, Wayne __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher."

08-20-09, 03:14 AM	#7
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	i have used "shoot" with some fairly high degree of success in the past... however i have found that it is a lot faster for me to just click the icons and speed telegraph and push keyboard keys. __________________

08-20-09, 12:04 PM	#8
zenmaster Nub Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Springfield, VA USA Posts: 4 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the input. I'll avoid it due to complexity and weird factor when discussing with friends. From "40 year old virgin" reference. You know how I know your gay? When you set up voice command and talk to your games????? Salute!

08-20-09, 12:43 PM	#9
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I have used voice commands very effectively with flight combat sims where I fly strictly in-cockpit. If you "push to talk" or key the mic you will get excellent response over an 'open mic'. Yes, it adds to the immersion and for hard to find keys it if fantastic IMHO. It works well in MP with select commands. Whatever floats your boat! __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

08-20-09, 12:51 PM	#10
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I use "Voice Commands" all the time. Hey Honey... Will you get me another beer. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-22-09, 11:27 AM	#13
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=FIREWALL;1155050]I use "Voice Commands" all the time. Hey Honey... Will you get me another beer. [/QUOTE ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

03-06-10, 03:48 PM	#14
jollyroger131 Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 14 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	VR Commander - Getting it to work with SH3 I recently discovered VR Commander voice recognition software, link, and I love it! It's got a simple interface and lets you create your own profiles to use voice commands to activate keystrokes and macros. Best of all, it uses its own built-in voice recognition engine (which works extremely well and doesn’t need training) and doesn't require Microsoft's SR. The only downside is it's $10 to buy a full license (though you can try it for 15 days free). I've got it working for other games like Battlefield 1942 (yes I'm old school), but for some reason it doesn't work with SH3. It runs in the background like it should while the game is running, but I say a command and SH3 doesn't respond at all. And yes I'm sure VR Commander is working - tested in notepad that the commands are activating keys, etc. I'm thinking it's something to do with either 1) SH3's Commands_en config file using "virtual key codes" (such as 0x33 for "3") instead of standard key codes or 2) DirectX not allowing the simulated keystrokes into the game - something about order of inputs. If anyone out there, like me, finds VR Commander so good that it's worth getting it working with SH3, I'd appreciate the help.