Russia Declassifies Naval Encounters with UFOs/USOs

[Stealth Hunter]

http://www.thetechherald.com/article...UFO-encounters





The Russian navy is the latest to join the bandwagon of world official agencies anxious to declassify its encounters with Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

According to Svobodnaya Pressa news website, records of unexplained encounters by submarines and ships of the Russian navy have been revealed to the public for the very first time.

Vladimir Azhazha, former navy officer and a famous Russian UFO researcher, told Russia Today of a peculiar characteristic of UFOs, never before revealed to the general public - that they (UFOs) apparently enjoy water.

“Fifty percent of UFO encounters are connected with oceans. Fifteen more – with lakes. So UFOs tend to stick to the water,” he said to RT.

Following in a similar vein to recently-released NASA encounters with UFOs, the Russian records reveal an unexplained encounter a nuclear submarine had with six unknown objects underwater. After failing to get away from the UFOs, the captain allegedly gave the order to surface. The mysterious objects followed suit, then took off, according to the records.

Retired submarine commander Rear Admiral Yury Beketov was quoted by RT as saying many unexplained phenomena occured in the now-infamous Bermuda Triangle.

“On several occasions the instruments gave reading of material objects moving at incredible speed," he said. "Calculations showed speeds of about 230 knots, of 400 kph."

"Speeding so fast is a challenge even on the surface. But water resistance is much higher. It was like the objects defied the laws of physics. There’s only one explanation: the creatures who built them far surpass us in development,” Beketov said.

The released records also show large UFO activity around and in Russia’s Lake Baikal, the deepest fresh water body in the world.

RT again reports of one encounter in lurid detail: "In one case in 1982 a group of military divers training at Baikal spotted a group of humanoid creatures dressed in silvery suits. The encounter happened at a depth of 50 meters, and the divers tried to catch the strangers. Three of the seven men died, while four others were severely injured."

“I think about underwater bases and say: why not? Nothing should be discarded,” says Vladimir Azhazha. “Skepticism is the easiest way: believe nothing, do nothing. People rarely visit great depths. So it’s very important to analyze what they encounter there.”

[Raptor1]

Nyet, comrade, is all weather balloons!

Yeah like alien's can get here in a reasonable time.

[sh3rules]

Apparently someone has not been careful testing prototypes . Those are some serious underwater speeds.

As far as aliens are concerned, well...

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Rilder

Yeah like alien's can get here in a reasonable time.

Depends on when they started travelling.

[Takeda Shingen]

Well, tin-foil hat time again.

[Jimbuna]

“I think about underwater bases and say: why not? Nothing should be discarded,” says Vladimir Azhazha. “Skepticism is the easiest way: believe nothing, do nothing. People rarely visit great depths. So it’s very important to analyze what they encounter there.”

Could it be they've stumbled across the secret base of Stingray?

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Well, tin-foil hat time again.

Made me chuckle

In any case, maybe they stick near water because they believe that there will be signs of intelligent life there? Surely it can't be any intelligent species on land

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Depends on when they started travelling.

500+ years ago? Seems like allot of effort just to annoy some farmers and submariners :rotfl:

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Rilder

Yeah like alien's can get here in a reasonable time.

That is a good point, however, remember that traveling 100 lightyears
distance may take 150 years in a very, very fast vehicle, but that is a 150
years from a stationary perspective. It's much less time for the people in
the vehicle as time slows down for you as you move very fast.

If you can move just below light speed then a journey of 1000 light years
distance will take very, very little time for the people traveling at such
speed. The only inconvenience being that over 1000 years time will have
passed from the relatively stationary starting position.

So long as you can accelerate fast enough and reach a near-light speed;
you can go anywhere in the universe within any time (say an hour).
The price to pay is that your relatively static start point will have had
many, may years pass in your high speed hour.


Ed: I don't mean this as an argument for the existance of alien UFOs.

[Steel_Tomb]

Interesting ... at least the Russians have released some of their "unexplained" sitings over the years.

One thing that bugs me is whenever someone mentions UFO's everyone just goes "little green men from mars lolz" . I believe that is a very naive perspective on the universe. The sheer size of the universe is so impossibly huge that we can not even begin to attempt to comprehend its scale. We are one solar system, in one galaxy... which in itself has billions of star systems, which is just one galaxy amongst millions if not billions of galaxies...

And we are to believe that we are the only example of intelligent life? We are a very young species, there is nothing to say that in the long life of the universe there isn't a species or many species that may have cracked quantum physics and created machines capable of bridging the immense distances between the stars. Wormholes/Warp drive are all sound theories, we just don't have the technical prowess or knowledge to create them... perhaps somone out there has?

One thing that would puzzle me, is why would such an advanced race even want to come to this backwater planet (if they have)? We are pretty barbaric still, killing each other for petty little things like money or power.. we can't even mix with each other properly because we believe in make-belief God's or don't like the colour of their skin, whilst killing the very planet we live on because it would "cost" too much to impliment the drastic changes to our economies and lifestyles...

We have quite a way to go before I think someone would stop and take notice of us...



PS: And before anyone asks, there are no green men on Mars... its a dead world the only chance of finding life would be frozen bacteria in the polar regions.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

Interesting ... at least the Russians have released some of their "unexplained" sitings over the years.

One thing that bugs me is whenever someone mentions UFO's everyone just goes "little green men from mars lolz" . I believe that is a very naive perspective on the universe. The sheer size of the universe is so impossibly huge that we can not even begin to attempt to comprehend its scale. We are one solar system, in one galaxy... which in itself has billions of star systems, which is just one galaxy amongst millions if not billions of galaxies...

And we are to believe that we are the only example of intelligent life? We are a very young species, there is nothing to say that in the long life of the universe there isn't a species or many species that may have cracked quantum physics and created machines capable of bridging the immense distances between the stars. Wormholes/Warp drive are all sound theories, we just don't have the technical prowess or knowledge to create them... perhaps somone out there has?

One thing that would puzzle me, is why would such an advanced race even want to come to this backwater planet (if they have)? We are pretty barbaric still, killing each other for petty little things like money or power.. we can't even mix with each other properly because we believe in make-belief God's or don't like the colour of their skin, whilst killing the very planet we live on because it would "cost" too much to impliment the drastic changes to our economies and lifestyles...

We have quite a way to go before I think someone would stop and take notice of us...



PS: And before anyone asks, there are no green men on Mars... its a dead world the only chance of finding life would be frozen bacteria in the polar regions.

I do not believe in extra-terrestrials. I also do not believe in god. However, it strikes me as odd that many of those who so vehemently scorn the belief in a creator-god are the same who so ardently support the belief in extra-terrestrials. This, I find amusing due to the fact that they both rely on the same logic to support their claims:

1. It is impossible to conceive that the universe, with it's infinite vastness, plethora of matter, and abundance of potential sources of energy, is home to but one intelligent species.

and

2. It is impossible to conceive that the world, with it's numerous specialized and codependent species, food chains, and water and climate cycles formed singularly by chance.

In truth, there is little evidence to support either claim, and most of that which exists is observational. Both support their stands by citing a few individuals who claim that 'I saw something'. In this, it makes the testimony of a pilot claiming that he saw a UFO little different than an old woman claiming to have seen the Virgin Mary in a Pop Tart. For both camps, belief really stems from the fact that they want to believe, and little more.

[Steel_Tomb]

Originally Posted by Letum

That is a good point, however, remember that traveling 100 lightyears
distance may take 150 years in a very, very fast vehicle, but that is a 150
years from a stationary perspective. It's much less time for the people in
the vehicle as time slows down for you as you move very fast.

If you can move just below light speed then a journey of 1000 light years
distance will take very, very little time for the people traveling at such
speed. The only inconvenience being that over 1000 years time will have
passed from the relatively stationary starting position.

So long as you can accelerate fast enough and reach a near-light speed;
you can go anywhere in the universe within any time (say an hour).
The price to pay is that your relatively static start point will have had
many, may years pass in your high speed hour.


Ed: I don't mean this as an argument for the existance of alien UFOs.

Letum, I thought it was impossible to actually reach the speed of light? If I remember correctly, Einstein put in his law of relativity that you can reach 99% the speed of light but to reach the speed of light the amount of energy required to do so would infinately increase the closer you got to the speed of light... thus making it impossible to go that fast. Hence why people have been theorizing about wormholes and warp drive where you bend space around you instead of travelling through it conventially. From what you wrote I get the impression you can actually go faster than light... am I barking up the wrong pulsar or something here?

Of course I believe that Non-Human Sentient life forms exist, I just doubt they are visiting earth.