[REL] SKIN S-boat dazzle camo (yes, another one ^^)

[ichso]

Sooo,

after a request in thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=152178 I took on work on an S-boat dazzle Skin.

Funny enough, later that day running deer released his own version of a very similiar skin. I was half finished so I went on anyways and finished it this morning. No harm done, running deer, the more variety to choose from the better .

My skin is based on this image:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0803605.jpg

The skin features again, a slightly weathered look with rust, washed off paint (where the sea washed along all the time e.g.) and the oil canning feature I had in my last skin.

It now looks like this:

(It was a bit tricky to line up the stripes of differen areas because SH4 has a weird way of gathering it's texture information).

DL link:
http://files.filefront.com/SKIN+S+bo.../fileinfo.html
And an update for the complete (early & late war) version of the skin (as posted with pictures also below):
http://files.filefront.com/SKIN+S+bo.../fileinfo.html

The skin is again based on one of Foofighters base versions (already used in RFB afaik).

Happy sailing

[ichso]

And the first reply is by the author himself ... lame, I know

I was gonna skin this one for the sugar boats for next:


But if you're already working on it, running deer I would probably rather not start with it, not that we do the same thing twice again, just for organization

[runningdeer]

Originally Posted by ichso

And the first reply is by the author himself ... lame, I know

I was gonna skin this one for the sugar boats for next:


But if you're already working on it, running deer I would probably rather not start with it, not that we do the same thing twice again, just for organization

...nope.

Your sugar boat is incredible! It looks exactly like the photo you had to work from. I thought that the photo/design that I used was the only photo of an s-class in dazzle scheme, until you sent me yours. I googled til my nose bled to find mine.

It's very nice work.

P.S. unless you count this one that I toyed with about 4 days ago, but it was just a screenshot:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...08977&page=134

[gimpy117]

nice now we have two historical ones to choose from!
we need a few camo schemes for fleet boats...did they have any?

[Highbury]

I don't think Fleet Boats ever used Dazzle, but I could be wrong...

Thanks indeed for the skin, it looks fantastic! and the more types we have the better! I would love to see the system used on the USS West Mahomet in the pic, applied to a sugar boat!

For some good 2D diagrams of full ships in Dazzle schemes check this link: http://www.risd.edu/dazzle/
The "gallery" on the right is simply awesome!

[runningdeer]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

nice now we have two historical ones to choose from!
we need a few camo schemes for fleet boats...did they have any?

I think that by early in the war, it was determined that the best camouflage for submarines was either black or gray...primarily gray. (from what I gathered). I don't think we will find a porpoise, gato, etc in dazzle scheme unfortunately.

Not even an S-Class. I think there was only a few submarines done up in dazzle...the O & K class submarines. I think that after that it was just black and/or gray.

Bummer...I myself would love to skin a fleet boat in dazzle. It would be easy enough, but probably not historically accurate, for WWII submarine types.

Then again, I could be wrong.

[Highbury]

What is the class shown here? I am no expert on US WW2 submarines by anyones standard lol, for all I know it isn't even American.



It is a scan from the book; Warship by Anthony Preston. The picture states that the flattop is the USS Hornet, and the picture was taken at Ulithi, no date given. It does say that Hornet is sporting a Design 3A pattern, which I know was also applied to USS Franklin, in Norfolk, in 1944. So it is not necessarily an early war photo. (The book also states that USS Interpid and USS Hancock used the same starboard pattern, which leads me to believe that different patterns may have been used on port and starboard for some ships.)

[milomark]

Nice skins, but do you have bigger submarines(i mean like the Soviet Typhoon,Kursk,the US Seawolf...or even battleships?)

just asking.but a guy told me that you have them(he told me on youtube)

[ichso]

Well, I don't
Somebody around here has created 3D models for those, I believe.

i love the job you did but i feel the need to point out the s-boats were 20 yr old hulks that were rusty as hell in spite of how much they tried to maintain them and even a fresh brand new paint job didnt cover up the rust very well or for very long.

i would love to see you take away the "brand new off the showroom" look and change it to a more dirty and weathered look and add a good bit of rust everywhere. at the very least it should still look like a 20 yr old boat.

granted its not realistic to have the dazzle on an s-boat to start with but it is something that "could" have been done at the time and it you had adirty and rusty version it would look more like a somewhat realistic version of a "possible" real version.

just my 2 cents

[Rockin Robbins]

Actually the dazzle paint was tried well before the war, when the s-boats weren't yet complete walking dead yet! Even then it didn't last long as the findings from the test were that the boat was actually easier to spot....who figured?

[ichso]

Originally Posted by WEBSTER

i love the job you did but i feel the need to point out the s-boats were 20 yr old hulks that were rusty as hell in spite of how much they tried to maintain them and even a fresh brand new paint job didnt cover up the rust very well or for very long.

i would love to see you take away the "brand new off the showroom" look and change it to a more dirty and weathered look and add a good bit of rust everywhere. at the very least it should still look like a 20 yr old boat.

granted its not realistic to have the dazzle on an s-boat to start with but it is something that "could" have been done at the time and it you had adirty and rusty version it would look more like a somewhat realistic version of a "possible" real version.

just my 2 cents

Where there rusty looking boats in action during the war ? If they got at least freshly painted before each patrol that could have covered up most of the rusty hull.
But the idea is nice, it would give a whole different appeal to these things, makes the player feel more like sitting in a steel tube that is close before completely falling apart

[WernherVonTrapp]

I thought the dazzle camo scheme wasn't meant to make the boats harder to spot, but rather, to make it more difficult for the enemy gunners/u-boats to determine it's course, speed and length. From what I've read so far, it was rather successful at accomplishing this with it's British innovators and was therefore adopted by the U.S. Navy. Of course, the advent of gun laying radar meant the advent of camo schemes designed to make the vessel harder to see.