Why we fight

August · 11-04-08, 04:11 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7708169.stm

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A young woman recently stoned to death in Somalia first pleaded for her life, a witness has told the BBC.
"Don't kill me, don't kill me," she said, according to the man who wanted to remain anonymous. A few minutes later, more than 50 men threw stones.
Human rights group Amnesty International says the victim was a 13-year-old girl who had been raped.

Biggles · 11-04-08, 04:18 PM

Truly a tragic story, and I have no desire whatsoever to start a debate, but does the U.S gov. really wage war to stop these sort of things? Or do you mean the UN maybe?

Digital_Trucker · 11-04-08, 04:19 PM

You would think that with all the advancements man has made that things like this wouldn't be so common. Maybe when we "grow up"

Thomen · 11-04-08, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Meanwhile your country is allied with the likes of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia to name but a few.

And France..

VipertheSniper · 11-04-08, 04:22 PM

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And France..

Haven't heard of any stonings there...

Thomen · 11-04-08, 04:26 PM

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And France..

Haven't heard of any stonings there...

Not sure about the authenticity.. but there ya go.

http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003883.php

Jimbuna · 11-04-08, 04:30 PM

Somalia....the cornerstone of humanity

August · 11-04-08, 04:29 PM

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Meanwhile your country is allied with the likes of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia to name but a few.

And France..

France which conducts and has been conducting dirty diplomatic relations with Africa and some Arab regimes for decades, that's precisely why I wouldn't ever dare proclame that "this (injustice) is why we fight". That's total BS.

I wasn't aware that France was doing any fighting.

Stealth Hunter · 11-04-08, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

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Originally Posted by Thomen

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Meanwhile your country is allied with the likes of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia to name but a few.

And France..

France which conducts and has been conducting dirty diplomatic relations with Africa and some Arab regimes for decades, that's precisely why I wouldn't ever dare proclame that "this (injustice) is why we fight". That's total BS.

I wasn't aware that France was doing any fighting.

Maybe that's because they don't feel the need to be the world's policeman...

joea · 11-04-08, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

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Originally Posted by Thomen

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Meanwhile your country is allied with the likes of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia to name but a few.

And France..

France which conducts and has been conducting dirty diplomatic relations with Africa and some Arab regimes for decades, that's precisely why I wouldn't ever dare proclame that "this (injustice) is why we fight". That's total BS.

I wasn't aware that France was doing any fighting.

Forgetting about Afghanistan?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...anistan.france

August · 11-04-08, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

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Originally Posted by Thomen

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Meanwhile your country is allied with the likes of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia to name but a few.

And France..

France which conducts and has been conducting dirty diplomatic relations with Africa and some Arab regimes for decades, that's precisely why I wouldn't ever dare proclame that "this (injustice) is why we fight". That's total BS.

I wasn't aware that France was doing any fighting.

Forgetting about Afghanistan?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...anistan.france

Why not?, Mikhayl is...

August · 11-04-08, 04:39 PM

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That doesn't surprise me one bit since apparently you were also unaware that some of your allies have stonings and beheading written in their laws.

"My" allies? You're saying that France is not allied with any government that allows stonings or beheadings?

August · 11-04-08, 04:47 PM

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That doesn't surprise me one bit since apparently you were also unaware that some of your allies have stonings and beheading written in their laws.

"My" allies? You're saying that France is not allied with any government that allows stonings or beheadings?

You quoted my post but looks like you missed it anyway so here it is again : France which conducts and has been conducting dirty diplomatic relations with Africa and some Arab regimes for decades, that's precisely why I wouldn't ever dare proclame that "this (injustice) is why we fight". That's total BS.

Well maybe you fight for some dirty diplomatic reason but don't be telling others why they fight.

Digital_Trucker · 11-04-08, 04:52 PM

I think, perhaps, the definition of "we" might need to be explained here. I don't think "we" is the United States or any other government, but, instead, is meant to be the soldiers who are actually doing the fighting. I would certainly be willing to fight against such things, as an individual or a citizen of my country. If that constitutes being the "worlds policeman", so be it. Looks like the world needs some policemen, it certainly isn't behaving in a civilized manner on it's own.

Edit : Yes, I include the government of my own country in my definition of the world.

11-04-08, 04:18 PM	#2
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Truly a tragic story, and I have no desire whatsoever to start a debate, but does the U.S gov. really wage war to stop these sort of things? Or do you mean the UN maybe? __________________

11-04-08, 04:19 PM	#3
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	You would think that with all the advancements man has made that things like this wouldn't be so common. Maybe when we "grow up" __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Somalia....the cornerstone of humanity __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-04-08, 04:52 PM	#14
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	I think, perhaps, the definition of "we" might need to be explained here. I don't think "we" is the United States or any other government, but, instead, is meant to be the soldiers who are actually doing the fighting. I would certainly be willing to fight against such things, as an individual or a citizen of my country. If that constitutes being the "worlds policeman", so be it. Looks like the world needs some policemen, it certainly isn't behaving in a civilized manner on it's own. Edit : Yes, I include the government of my own country in my definition of the world. __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave. Last edited by Digital_Trucker; 11-04-08 at 04:53 PM.