War of the future: gap between rich and poor growing

[Skybird]

... in three out of four countries.

http://www.oecd.org/document/25/0,33..._1_1_1,00.html

The gap between rich and poor has grown in more than three-quarters of OECD countries over the past two decades, according to a new OECD report.

OECD’s Growing Unequal? finds that the economic growth of recent decades has benefitted the rich more than the poor. In some countries, such as Canada, Finland, Germany, Italy, Norway and the United States, the gap also increased between the rich and the middle-class.

Some days ago it was on german news, that charity food collection services that redistribute old food to poor people report the number of people taking benefit of this have doubled over the past 2 or 3 years. amonsgt those who came new to it are many people who before contributed food from their private households. since supermarket alos calculate more sharply they also have less old food remaining at the end of the day that they contribute to these charity organisations.

In Berlin, 1 in 5 children come to school hungry, and even more children would not get 1 hot meal idf they would not be fed in school, or in charity projects were their parents sent them, since especially at the end of the month there is little money left in their parent's purse. Social workers that I know from earlier times in berlin and Frankfurt say that these are not only families where the parents are unemploeyed, but have jobs - but get payed with ridiculously low wages.

What value has a system, when "economic competitiveness" can only be achieved with more and more parts of the population becoming the loosers from it, and only shareholders win here? when banks drive their cars into the abyss and are responsible for it all by themselves, the industrialised nations make sure that trillions of tax-money get activated immediately, and ttrying to force through a policy of global domination the US accepts wo wage a war that, adding all follow-up costs, costs that single countrx alone up to 3 trillion - but those peanuts like some hundred millions for social security needed in rich nations like germany or america, or for the education system, or estimated just 10 billion that would be needed to feed those 1 billion people in the world threatened by hunger and starvation (that numbers has grown, too, due to the growing food price speculations) - there is total failure and icy silence and serous concerns aboiut where to take that "much" money from. It is more important to pay "top" managers who caused the greatest economic crisis since decades their several millions per month.

If Aliens would observe planet Earth from outside, they must conclude that mankind is a cannibalistic species.

While the risk of civil wars in countries like Germany is growing slowly only, it is not impossble a scenario though, and economic depression in Germany has been the cause of extremism and war in germany in the past. In more exotic nations, unrest could lead to rebellion much faster, and it should be known by know that those people not having enough to eat and have poor education, tend to fall to political and religious extremists much easier. We raise hostile combatants for future wars we will fight, then.

[Falkirion]

In the words of one robot of the year 3000. "Well, we're boned"

[SUBMAN1]

I don't think this is a gap between who makes what. It is a actually a growing gap between those that sit on their ass and those that actually get up every morning and go to work.

I mean, look around you! Everyone wants to get paid a million bucks a year these days but they don't want to train / educate / or work for it. No wonder there is a gap! Everyone thinks its their right to own a house, drive a nice car, and get paid megabucks simply because they think they are all that.

Maybe this article should be titled - The wake up of Western people to the idea that they are not all that!

Another thing that bugs me - people expect to not have to start at the bottom anymore. So they would rather not take a job than learn the ropes. We are getting pathetic as a society and sooner or later, the party will come to an end with this spoiled brats we all have lately. They all wait for the gov to bail them out. Sorry, but you better not wish on an entity that lacks the power to do so and has no capability.

Another useless article.

-S

PS. I see you got in your customary US bashing in there too Skybird. Nice.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I don't think this is a gap between who makes what. It is a actually a growing gap between those that sit on their ass and those that actually get up every morning and go to work.

I mean, look around you! Everyone wants to get paid a million bucks a year these days but they don't want to train / educate / or work for it. No wonder there is a gap! Everyone thinks its their right to own a house, drive a nice car, and get paid megabucks simply because they think they are all that.

Maybe this article should be titled - The wake up of Western people to the idea that they are not all that!

Another thing that bugs me - people expect to not have to start at the bottom anymore. So they would rather not take a job than learn the ropes. We are getting pathetic as a society and sooner or later, the party will come to an end with this spoiled brats we all have lately. They all wait for the gov to bail them out. Sorry, but you better not wish on an entity that lacks the power to do so and has no capability.

Another useless article.

-S

PS. I see you got in your customary US bashing in there too Skybird. Nice.

holy crap i agree with..you

[Digital_Trucker]

Ditto, for the most part. That's why there are so many illegal immigrants in the US doing jobs that Americans are perfectly capable of, but not willing to do.

[August]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Ditto, for the most part. That's why there are so many illegal immigrants in the US doing jobs that Americans are perfectly capable of, but not willing to do.

Not willing to do for the slave wages that undocumented workers will accept you mean...

Originally Posted by Morts

holy crap i agree with..you

Well Denmark has loads of dosh to throw around, and you're not about to go poor as a nation any time soon. My country, Finland, seems to have more endemic problems of large parts of the nation being pretty devoid of opportunities. It's easy to say "go where the work is" but that may include going abroad into some unknown situation which isn't very nice especially for a long period of time. I've been in that situation and probably will be again, and I don't think people who are poor, destitute and/or unemployed are so because of their own fault. Especially when they have like two degrees and plenty of work experience.

Inherited wealth means that the society will never be equal, at least in our lifetimes. Imagine that, we're still pretty much living in a caste society in the west and the ones at the bottom are being increasingly targeted by the society and the various right wing forces. Time is right for a new Hitler...

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Well Denmark has loads of dosh to throw around, and you're not about to go poor as a nation any time soon. My country, Finland, seems to have more endemic problems of large parts of the nation being pretty devoid of opportunities. It's easy to say "go where the work is" but that may include going abroad into some unknown situation which isn't very nice especially for a long period of time. I've been in that situation and probably will be again, and I don't think people who are poor, destitute and/or unemployed are so because of their own fault. Especially when they have like two degrees and plenty of work experience.

Inherited wealth means that the society will never be equal, at least in our lifetimes. Imagine that, we're still pretty much living in a caste society in the west and the ones at the bottom are being increasingly targeted by the society and the various right wing forces. Time is right for a new Hitler...

Bohoo fecking woo!
So you are still unemploeyd, or between jobs as you put it before? No work for your degrees? What are those degrees? Maybe there is something else that is stopping you from getting a job? Why dont you take a job other than your dream job? Maybe you should study something else?

Most unemployed i know are lazy, alcholics, mad or all at the same time.

Devoid of oportunities? Please!
You can go to any school you like here, no matter your sosio-economic background, even i support that..
You need more opportunities? What?

Inherited wealth is a bad thing? Its one reason people work hard, save and invest, to have something to pass on in the family. One of the most immoral taxes is the inheritance tax, hope this goverment manages to abolish it.
We are never going to be equal.. Would you really want to be equal with a lazy, drunk mad person?
Its enough there is education and health care provided for all, rest should be up to the individual.
Otherwise people become passive and start to whine how they cant be and get everything what they want..
Thats life! Who said its going to be easy?

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I don't think this is a gap between who makes what. It is a actually a growing gap between those that sit on their ass and those that actually get up every morning and go to work.

I mean, look around you! Everyone wants to get paid a million bucks a year these days but they don't want to train / educate / or work for it. No wonder there is a gap! Everyone thinks its their right to own a house, drive a nice car, and get paid megabucks simply because they think they are all that.

Maybe this article should be titled - The wake up of Western people to the idea that they are not all that!

Another thing that bugs me - people expect to not have to start at the bottom anymore. So they would rather not take a job than learn the ropes. We are getting pathetic as a society and sooner or later, the party will come to an end with this spoiled brats we all have lately. They all wait for the gov to bail them out. Sorry, but you better not wish on an entity that lacks the power to do so and has no capability.

Another useless article.

-S

PS. I see you got in your customary US bashing in there too Skybird. Nice.

Economic data over the last 20 years refutes your opinion.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by goldorak

Economic data over the last 20 years refutes your opinion.

Care to prove that?

Let me help you - Apples and oranges man. The point the economic data forgets is that there would be an increased amount of productivity if everyone bothered to work up to their capability and follow historical ways to get where they needed to be. Your economic data simply points to what happened and has no bearing on what could be.

-S

[Blacklight]

I don't think this is a gap between who makes what. It is a actually a growing gap between those that sit on their ass and those that actually get up every morning and go to work.

It's an ignorant statement like this that pisses me off. I usually ignore your posts, but a statement like this irritates me !

I can speak from example ! I am a hard worker. I bust my a$$ for whoever I work for. Then, the job market got a little tough. Did the higer-ups feel it ? No ! They just moved jobs and their money overseas and laid everyone off. I have been laid off in this manner twice in my life only to end up being forced to take tougher jobs for less pay and less benefits if any benefits at all and those benefits are constantly draining due to companies trimming their fat and the CEO's giving themselves raises ! As a matter of fact, a LOT of these company CEO's are making their bonuses by making their company apear to be making profit BY laying people off !
There are a lot of us hard workers out there who actually DO go to work and work our asses off thank you very much ! Whether you like it or not, the divide between the wealthy and the poor (The middle class is dropping into the poor class as we speak) IS increasing in levels never before seen ! As companies ditch the US and move overseas and take their money with them, or keep the money in their own little circles, and pay us less for working for them, our cost of living is going up, up, up. 5% of the people in the US control 90% of it's wealth ! Think about that before you call us hard workers who are getting the shaft from the higher ups people who sit on their asses and don't work.

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

It is a actually a growing gap between those that sit on their ass and those that actually get up every morning and go to work.

Damn straight! *hoists budweiser into the air. I mean look at those Rockefeller and royal family members. Those people know how to "work hard", I mean everytime I see them in the press they are at a party with a mixed drink. That there is dedication to work hard all day long and still have the energy to go party hard after a long day of work....

oh wait...

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Maybe this article should be titled - The wake up of Western people to the idea that they are not all that!

Ha ha, that was spot on.