Sub Upgrades

moosey · 08-26-08, 10:38 AM

I was wondering if there was any information available on which sub types could get which upgrades? pretty much asking if its worth trading in my type VIIB for a VIIC or wait for VIIC/41/42 to come out.

Also which boats are best?

ok IID is better than IIA but what is the actual diference in real gameplay between the different type VII and IX boats?

Thanks guys and girls

Rg370 · 08-26-08, 11:52 AM

Main difference between type VII and IX is that the type IX is longrange uboat that
operated near US coast, Caribbean and the far east. It could carry more torpedoes that the type VII, but it had longer dive times and was larger.
That would proove as disadvantage, because if the boat is suprised by aircraft it
just couldn't dive fast enough to avoid being damaged.
Also, because of it's size, it's easier to track her with sonar, and hit her with depth charges or hedgehogs.

moosey · 08-26-08, 12:00 PM

Thanks for the answer but you misunderstood, i meant what are the real differences between the subs in the same class (type VIIB,C,C/41 etc...) not between the actual sub classes.

Rg370 · 08-26-08, 01:22 PM

There aren't big differences between type VIIB and VIIC, except that VIIC was slightly
slower on surface because of it's heavier engines.
As for VIIC variants (41 and 42), they had stronger pressure hull so they could dive deeper (crush depth for 41 was around 250 m, and for 42 around 400 m).
Type VIIC/42 never reached operational level, because all contracts to build them were
cancelled.

Situation is similar with type IX boats (improved range, underwater speed...)

Jimbuna · 08-26-08, 01:28 PM

The type VIIC is upgradeable throughout the war.

Similarly, the IX newer models plus the fact they have greater range and torpedo stowage.

moosey · 08-26-08, 04:26 PM

Thanks for all youre answers.

I did some more looking around and i found this page http://alexbret.perso.cegetel.net/index4875.php

pretty much told me which upgrades were available for which boats at what time etc...

My usual campaign (GWX 2.1) starts in 1939 in type IIA which i keep until i can afford a type VII B or C, then later on in 41/42 i buy a type IX. i like playing that way as in the early missions you do lots of patrols so you end up with a very specialist crew core (one speciality per patrol) to which you add the extra crews when you move from class to class so in my longest campaign i had an elite core which had been with me since the beginning (apart from most of a deck crew which got killed back in 1940) which have i have given most of the promotions and medals.

08-26-08, 10:38 AM	#1
moosey Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sub Upgrades I was wondering if there was any information available on which sub types could get which upgrades? pretty much asking if its worth trading in my type VIIB for a VIIC or wait for VIIC/41/42 to come out. Also which boats are best? ok IID is better than IIA but what is the actual diference in real gameplay between the different type VII and IX boats? Thanks guys and girls

08-26-08, 01:28 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The type VIIC is upgradeable throughout the war. Similarly, the IX newer models plus the fact they have greater range and torpedo stowage. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-26-08, 11:52 AM	#2
Rg370 Watch Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina Posts: 30 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Main difference between type VII and IX is that the type IX is longrange uboat that operated near US coast, Caribbean and the far east. It could carry more torpedoes that the type VII, but it had longer dive times and was larger. That would proove as disadvantage, because if the boat is suprised by aircraft it just couldn't dive fast enough to avoid being damaged. Also, because of it's size, it's easier to track her with sonar, and hit her with depth charges or hedgehogs.

08-26-08, 12:00 PM	#3
moosey Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the answer but you misunderstood, i meant what are the real differences between the subs in the same class (type VIIB,C,C/41 etc...) not between the actual sub classes.

08-26-08, 01:22 PM	#4
Rg370 Watch Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina Posts: 30 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	There aren't big differences between type VIIB and VIIC, except that VIIC was slightly slower on surface because of it's heavier engines. As for VIIC variants (41 and 42), they had stronger pressure hull so they could dive deeper (crush depth for 41 was around 250 m, and for 42 around 400 m). Type VIIC/42 never reached operational level, because all contracts to build them were cancelled. Situation is similar with type IX boats (improved range, underwater speed...)

08-26-08, 04:26 PM	#6
moosey Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for all youre answers. I did some more looking around and i found this page http://alexbret.perso.cegetel.net/index4875.php pretty much told me which upgrades were available for which boats at what time etc... My usual campaign (GWX 2.1) starts in 1939 in type IIA which i keep until i can afford a type VII B or C, then later on in 41/42 i buy a type IX. i like playing that way as in the early missions you do lots of patrols so you end up with a very specialist crew core (one speciality per patrol) to which you add the extra crews when you move from class to class so in my longest campaign i had an elite core which had been with me since the beginning (apart from most of a deck crew which got killed back in 1940) which have i have given most of the promotions and medals.