House to Rethink Drilling for oil, Pelosi Says

SUBMAN1 · 08-18-08, 09:45 AM

Even the democrats are finially seeing the big picture. You can't have your dumb green energy policies and not have hydrocarbons. Duh! At least they are starting to show some semblance of a brain over there.

-S

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WASHINGTON — Dropping her opposition to a vote on coastal oil exploration, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Saturday that the House would consider expanded offshore drilling as part of broad energy legislation when Congress returns next month....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/wa...pelosi.html?hp

Sailor Steve · 08-18-08, 10:09 AM

Interesting news, but it would be nice if just once you could discuss it without being insulting and demeaning.

SUBMAN1 · 08-18-08, 10:18 AM

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Interesting news, but it would be nice if just once you could discuss it without being insulting and demeaning.

I'm insulting 'them' for being so slow to respond. The whole of congress for the last 8 years or so has been a pathetic waste of time.

And I will continue to insult them, thank you very much.

-S

UnderseaLcpl · 08-18-08, 10:22 AM

Here we go again......

Zachstar · 08-18-08, 10:34 AM

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Here we go again......

Thankfully tho there is a chance Nancy will be defeated by the independent with her constant backing down to the repubs..

SUBMAN1 · 08-18-08, 10:37 AM

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Here we go again......

Thankfully tho there is a chance Nancy will be defeated by the independent with her constant backing down to the repubs..

It's by backing down that anything gets accomplished over there. Both sides that is. What you are advocating is never getting anything accomplished at all!

-S

Digital_Trucker · 08-18-08, 11:37 AM

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It's by backing down that anything gets accomplished over there.
-S

I can agree with every part of that statement (using my own definition of "backing down") except for the "over there" part. Does this imply that this concept of capitulation and cooperation doesn't apply anywhere but "over here"? Please correct me if I'm misinterpreting.

Digital_Trucker · 08-18-08, 10:37 AM

And there's a chance she won't get re-elected again if she doesn't do what makes sense. Just depends on how you want to look at what "backing down" is, IMHO.

Edit : It's not supposed to be an "us against them" situation. The two parties are supposed to do what makes sense for the good of all. Unfortunately, like so many other things, the pendulum doesn't stay in the middle, it has to swing widely one way or the other.

Zachstar · 08-18-08, 10:43 AM

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And there's a chance she won't get re-elected again if she doesn't do what makes sense. Just depends on how you want to look at what "backing down" is, IMHO.

She has backed down on almost everything from day one.. She has been the biggest failure of a speaker in the history on modern politics in my view..

Getting re-elected? She had absolutely no issue with that before she decided "Impeachment is off the table" starting a long line of failures.. Now she has Cindy in a position to dethrone her..

August · 08-18-08, 11:03 AM

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It's not supposed to be an "us against them" situation. The two parties are supposed to do what makes sense for the good of all. Unfortunately, like so many other things, the pendulum doesn't stay in the middle, it has to swing widely one way or the other.

Truth.

Frame57 · 08-18-08, 10:24 AM

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Interesting news, but it would be nice if just once you could discuss it without being insulting and demeaning.

Steve! Pardon me for bustin in here, but....were you a military man once? If so then grab em and sound out and quit being offended. If this were my site I would ban you for being tooooo PC and a bit femenized.

Digital_Trucker · 08-18-08, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Interesting news, but it would be nice if just once you could discuss it without being insulting and demeaning.

Steve! Pardon me for bustin in here, but....were you a military man once? If so then grab em and sound out and quit being offended. If this were my site I would ban you for being tooooo PC and a bit femenized.

Good thing it's not your site, then. He made a suggestion based on what he perceived to be an insulting and demeaning remark. I can see how he might have taken it that way. I might have taken it that way, too, given the right circumstances. So might many others. Chill

UnderseaLcpl · 08-18-08, 10:41 AM

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Steve! Pardon me for bustin in here, but....were you a military man once? If so then grab em and sound out and quit being offended. If this were my site I would ban you for being tooooo PC and a bit femenized.

I'm former military, too. That's no reason we can't be civil. Perhaps if you knew how uncivilized things can be you'd be a bit more appreciative of civility when it manifests itself.

-edit. Now that I look at it, that sounds a lot meaner than I had intended. All I meant to say was that civility is a good thing, not necessarily PC or feminized.

Onkel Neal · 08-18-08, 11:55 AM

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Interesting news, but it would be nice if just once you could discuss it without being insulting and demeaning.

Steve! Pardon me for bustin in here, but....were you a military man once? If so then grab em and sound out and quit being offended. If this were my site I would ban you for being tooooo PC and a bit femenized.

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I disagree! I have three hitches in two branches of the military. Former military do not act or speak this way. Unless we are dealing with wacs or waves. If you all think that what Subman said was offending or uncilvil, then what more can be said. It clearly was not and this is cleary a case of femenized "men" in need of a box of kleenex. I suspected this from this site. That I would run into wannabees who may or may not have been prior service. But it is easy to smoke em out because they act like you and speak like you. In fact you should be thanking me, because i am trying to salvage a veteran's manhood here. If you do not think that all this PC stuff is not keeping the bull in the pen then you are being deceived. Just allow someones freedom of speech in however they convey to come across without the panty whining. You are men, you can handle it!

This isn't your site and you may want to cut Steve a little slack, he is entitled to his opinion. As for feminized men, it's easy to be a he-man on the internet. Calm down, we have friends here.

Frame57 · 08-18-08, 10:17 AM

I think that they know that the people are finally getting sick of the nonsense. They have to support a drilling proposal and quit blaming the oil companies for these so called windfall profits. Why do they not tell the public where the other 92 cents profit out of every dollar really goes? Even if they made 10 cents on the dollar, that is marginal at best. In order for the company I work for to survive and expand, we have to maintain a 26% profitability margin.

Subman, can you clarify if the areas the Oil CO's already have to drill actually can produce oil or not? I have heard that they have drilling rights but refuse to drill. If this is true then this also needs to be addressed. I hope it is not the case.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Interesting news, but it would be nice if just once you could discuss it without being insulting and demeaning. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Here we go again...... __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

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Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	And there's a chance she won't get re-elected again if she doesn't do what makes sense. Just depends on how you want to look at what "backing down" is, IMHO. Edit : It's not supposed to be an "us against them" situation. The two parties are supposed to do what makes sense for the good of all. Unfortunately, like so many other things, the pendulum doesn't stay in the middle, it has to swing widely one way or the other. __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave. Last edited by Digital_Trucker; 08-18-08 at 10:47 AM.

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Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I think that they know that the people are finally getting sick of the nonsense. They have to support a drilling proposal and quit blaming the oil companies for these so called windfall profits. Why do they not tell the public where the other 92 cents profit out of every dollar really goes? Even if they made 10 cents on the dollar, that is marginal at best. In order for the company I work for to survive and expand, we have to maintain a 26% profitability margin. Subman, can you clarify if the areas the Oil CO's already have to drill actually can produce oil or not? I have heard that they have drilling rights but refuse to drill. If this is true then this also needs to be addressed. I hope it is not the case.