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Old 04-04-08, 12:31 PM   #1
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Default Argentina bringing back 1982 war huh?

I'm questioning Britain's ability to defend it this time around if Conflict does break out. I'm pretty sure they would lose since they have less capability than they did back then.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-03-voa28.cfm

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Old 04-04-08, 12:42 PM   #2
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I remember the 1982 encounter well. My most vivid memory is of an intrepid reporter from one of the Networks asking a British Commando what his greatest fear is...to which he responded "An Officer with a map"
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Old 04-04-08, 12:55 PM   #3
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I remember the 1982 encounter well. My most vivid memory is of an intrepid reporter from one of the Networks asking a British Commando what his greatest fear is...to which he responded "An Officer with a map"
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Old 04-04-08, 12:58 PM   #4
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I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82
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Old 04-04-08, 01:06 PM   #5
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I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82
So is the Argentines though too. SO its a toss up again. I don't even see the Mirages that the Argentines used to fly, but the Brits can't put up a carrier anymore either that I know of, so that may not even be an issue. ALl they would have to do is jump on a crusie ship and park troops in the Falklands, and I don't see how the Brits could do much about it? THey don't have a mobile airforce anymore that I know of.

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PS. NEver mind - THe Mirages are still flying - http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ina/index.html

Matter of fact, I am sure the UK would have trouble this time around.
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Old 04-04-08, 01:07 PM   #6
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I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82
Still no way.
You have 3 carriers! You can fly more Eurofighters and Tornados to RAF Mount Pleasant.
Your surface fleet and submarine force is much stronger and will own the Argentinians.
Have some faith, the Falklands is probably one of the top scenarios your Admiralty has planned.
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The Royal Navy still has its Subs. So much for the cruise ship.:rotfl:
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Old 04-04-08, 12:54 PM   #8
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I'm questioning Britain's ability to defend it this time around if Conflict does break out. I'm pretty sure they would lose since they have less capability than they did back then.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-03-voa28.cfm

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I would say that the Argentians would loose again. Comparing Air Forces and Navys the Brits have nothing to fear.
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Old 04-04-08, 01:50 PM   #9
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Tchocky has it right.

First, there is not a dictatorship in power desperately needing a distracting public opinion boost. (No Bush jokes, please.) Second, the first war was in large part caused by what was perceived to be apathy on the part of the UK, including the announcement of the imminent withdrawal of the last RN presence in the area. That misapprehension has, I think, been cleared up. Third, as has been noted, there's a bit more of a welcoming party there now than the 1982 token force and any invasion would not be quite the walkover that it was then.

This is for home consumption, the same way that Quebec in Canada refuses to acknowledge its non-ownership of Labrador. Done deal, everybody knows it, but it's comforting to reflect on past glories and what might have been. Come to think of it, is not one of Queen Elizabeth's titles 'Duchess of Normandy'?
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Old 04-04-08, 07:01 PM   #10
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I'm questioning Britain's ability to defend it this time around if Conflict does break out. I'm pretty sure they would lose since they have less capability than they did back then.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-03-voa28.cfm

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You been trying out some new beer Subman. Britain lose to Argentina:hmm: I doubt it very much, they maybe a bunch of pompus bartasds but they know how to fight & win.
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Old 04-04-08, 09:12 PM   #11
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The president of Argentina has reasserted her country's claim to sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, on the 26th anniversary of the start of the war Argentina fought with Britain over the territory.
Damn politicians, why can't they keep their slack-jawed mouths shut for a change?
The Falklands belong to us British, or rather, the people who actually live there on a barren windswept lump of rock in the middle of nowhere, want to be British.
As it stands it would make little difference if the islands residents wanted to be Argentinian, fact of the matter is it's their choice who they are, not some junta nut-jobs or Whitehall fat-cats thousands of miles away.

I've wondered in the past what would have happened had the British not responded to the invasion back then; would the Argentinians have killed civilians there if they resisted the occupation? Come to that, were the positions reversed, would the British?
Rash speculation, I know, but landing expeditionary forces on foreign territory with the expectation that the country they belong to will do nothing, is just asking for a bloody nose or worse; and all for what, a boost to national pride? One more good war and an easy victory to ensure re-election? (now who does that sound like? )

One might have expected such foolish rhetoric as quoted above might have been quelled by the international embarrassment caused the last time round. I guess some people are too blind to let go of the past: a "colonial enclave in the 21st century." she called it, well there's no getting around such entrenched thinking as that.

But if that's the way they want it, well then President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, step up and take your best shot if you think you can. It had better be a good one because you won't get a second chance...








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