The Enemy Below

deepboat · 02-03-08, 04:43 PM

Just finished watching "The Enemy Below", and I saw something interesting. The u-boat was tracking a escort on the surface with radar but it was one with a horizontal bar and would show a "V" in the line when it scanned the target. What kind of radar is it? Or is it fictional?

Brag · 02-03-08, 09:01 PM

I saw the movie, not bad but let's say a touch Holliwoodish? I would not take any details to seriously.

Sailor Steve · 02-03-08, 11:05 PM

Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies, but it does have its flaws. Don't even think about comparing the 'u-boat' interior with the one from Das Boot.

Kaptain Hans Wolf · 02-05-08, 06:46 AM

well i wouldent say its as hollywoodish as u-571, but it certanly is no das-boot.

Jimbuna · 02-05-08, 08:28 AM

I'll always remember it for the simple reason.....a proposed type VII that managed to fire 2 stern torpedoes simultaneously :hmm:

Oberon · 02-05-08, 08:37 AM

The radar set in SHII showed a dip or raise in a flat line, it's height based upon the strength of return I think. I haven't got far enough in SHIII to use radar yet, and probably wouldn't anyway due to my Sub Command/Dangerous Waters upbringing (RADAR on surface = Death), so I have no idea what SHIII radar is like...

Pablo · 02-14-08, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'll always remember it for the simple reason.....a proposed type VII that managed to fire 2 stern torpedoes simultaneously :hmm:

Hi!

Actually, I think it is supposed to be a Type IX. I paused a few of the underwater scenes, and it looks to me as if the movie's special effects department took a Gato-class submarine model and filled in two of the Gato-class boat's six forward tubes, and two of its aft tubes, leaving four forward and two aft - the same as a Type IX - as well as putting in a U-boat conning tower and adding the mine cutter for good measure.

Pablo

Pablo · 02-14-08, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by deepboat

Just finished watching "The Enemy Below", and I saw something interesting. The u-boat was tracking a escort on the surface with radar but it was one with a horizontal bar and would show a "V" in the line when it scanned the target. What kind of radar is it? Or is it fictional?

Hi!

The German radar oscilloscope shown in The Enemy Below is an "A-scope" display. It is the same type of display used by U-boats until the Type XXI, but I don't know if it looks exactly like a U-boat radar display. The Allied radar in the same movie uses a Plan Position Indicator (PPI), which was used historically by Allied ships later in the war.

See Appendix A of the GWX Manual for a longer dissertation.

Pablo

02-03-08, 04:43 PM	#1
deepboat Gunner Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In an Octopuss' Garden Posts: 99 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	The Enemy Below Just finished watching "The Enemy Below", and I saw something interesting. The u-boat was tracking a escort on the surface with radar but it was one with a horizontal bar and would show a "V" in the line when it scanned the target. What kind of radar is it? Or is it fictional? __________________ Smoke on the horizon captain!

02-03-08, 09:01 PM	#2
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I saw the movie, not bad but let's say a touch Holliwoodish? I would not take any details to seriously. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-03-08, 11:05 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies, but it does have its flaws. Don't even think about comparing the 'u-boat' interior with the one from Das Boot. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-05-08, 06:46 AM	#4
Kaptain Hans Wolf A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 75 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	hey well i wouldent say its as hollywoodish as u-571, but it certanly is no das-boot. __________________ Kaptain Hans Wolf U-48 Type VII B U Boot Flotilla Wegener 3 patrols 48.291 tonnes sunk "i do not know what weapons world war 3 will be fought with, but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones"

02-05-08, 08:28 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,717 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'll always remember it for the simple reason.....a proposed type VII that managed to fire 2 stern torpedoes simultaneously :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-05-08, 08:37 AM	#6
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	The radar set in SHII showed a dip or raise in a flat line, it's height based upon the strength of return I think. I haven't got far enough in SHIII to use radar yet, and probably wouldn't anyway due to my Sub Command/Dangerous Waters upbringing (RADAR on surface = Death), so I have no idea what SHIII radar is like...