Sudden end game

Sniper_Fox · 01-08-08, 06:43 PM

i hate the fact that you have no chance to save your boat usually... it just smashes right to the "haha you killed your crew jackass" screen.. is it possible to maybe let you go down with the the ship while she sinks till the superstructure implodes completely, so you at least have a chance to stop flooding and blow ballasts and what not to possibly give you a chance out of it?

ive only sunk down once uncontrollably, and i saved myself... so i want to be able to do it again more often

HW3 · 01-08-08, 07:03 PM

If it was possible, the GWX crew would have done it already.

Sniper_Fox · 01-08-08, 07:03 PM

well at least i didnt get my hopes up....

Schwuppes · 01-08-08, 09:36 PM

I don't quite understand what you mean.... if your boat sustaines damage you have time time fix it... if the damage and flooding is too severe you will start sinking to crush depth and die.
As long as your repair crew is good enough and you have enough time you can save your boat.... blowing ballast tanks has saved me before, when I was slowly sinking deeper and deeper.

What you are describing were it smashes to the "haha killed you" screen sounds like a depth charges must have exploded like 3 centimeters from your hull which will of course instantly kill any boat.

Sniper_Fox · 01-08-08, 09:39 PM

ive taken a depth charge in super shallow waters ( in the maltese port to be exact ) directly on my bow before... destroyed my hydrophone and bowplanes but i was able to stop flooding.

and it wont let you sink to crush depth mosttimes, it just throws you to that screen

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-09-08, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

i hate the fact that you have no chance to save your boat usually... it just smashes right to the "haha you killed your crew jackass" screen.. is it possible to maybe let you go down with the the ship while she sinks till the superstructure implodes completely, so you at least have a chance to stop flooding and blow ballasts and what not to possibly give you a chance out of it?

ive only sunk down once uncontrollably, and i saved myself... so i want to be able to do it again more often

Yes its quite simple... take the timetravellers mini tweaker, open the .zon file of the specific u-boat you're using and change the hitpoints.

I changed mine from 550 to 2000, and i have been in paradise city

Depth charged to the bone, sinking to the depths incontrolably, everything destroyed, crew being killed and i was able to watch all this happens...

If you want to watch the disaster to the very ending, i suggest you edit the hitpoints to a value like 5000.

And dont worry about thinking "Im cheating, if i do this my boat will be indestructible"... thats not quite right... everything INSIDE your u-boat will be destroyed as normal, including equipment, flooding times, crew, etc, so you wont be able to even move, youll be with all your engines, fuel tank, and equipment detroyed, all you could do is blowing ballast, but again with all compartments flooded you wont be going anywhere but down!

the only thing you're doing is delaying the death screen pop-up and having more time to watch the disaster, eating your popcorn!

Any further questions on that, PM ME!

Kpt. Lehmann · 01-09-08, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

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Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

i hate the fact that you have no chance to save your boat usually... it just smashes right to the "haha you killed your crew jackass" screen.. is it possible to maybe let you go down with the the ship while she sinks till the superstructure implodes completely, so you at least have a chance to stop flooding and blow ballasts and what not to possibly give you a chance out of it?

ive only sunk down once uncontrollably, and i saved myself... so i want to be able to do it again more often

Yes its quite simple... take the timetravellers mini tweaker, open the .zon file of the specific u-boat you're using and change the hitpoints.

I changed mine from 550 to 2000, and i have been in paradise city

Depth charged to the bone, sinking to the depths incontrolably, everything destroyed, crew being killed and i was able to watch all this happens...

If you want to watch the disaster to the very ending, i suggest you edit the hitpoints to a value like 5000.

And dont worry about thinking "Im cheating, if i do this my boat will be indestructible"... thats not quite right... everything INSIDE your u-boat will be destroyed as normal, including equipment, flooding times, crew, etc, so you wont be able to even move, youll be with all your engines, fuel tank, and equipment detroyed, all you could do is blowing ballast, but again with all compartments flooded you wont be going anywhere but down!

the only thing you're doing is delaying the death screen pop-up and having more time to watch the disaster, eating your popcorn!

Any further questions on that, PM ME!

You are partly correct. However, things aren't nearly as simple as you would have people believe.

There are very negative/unrealistic side effects/behaviors when you make changes that transform your U-boat into a Tiger tank.

You will see.

There are very good reasons why we chose not to increase the hitpoints for player subs in GWX.

If you use the forum search eventually you will understand why.

Sniper_Fox · 01-09-08, 12:55 AM

so what do you suggest lehmann

and what the hell is the timetravellers minitweaker

Kpt. Lehmann · 01-09-08, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniper_Fox

so what do you suggest lehmann

and what the hell is the timetravellers minitweaker

All I'm suggesting is that if something is working, it doesn't always need to be fixed.

Of course, if you don't mind breaking a few features, then any change to your game is perfectly acceptable.

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-09-08, 01:37 AM

Kpt L is right... there are somethings that will change a bit.

But you are changing to introduce more realism in exchange for a little less realism, coz lets agree, the instant death screen is the most irrealistic thing in the game.

Anyway, depends on each individual person to decides what their game should look like. If anyone here hates that screen as much as I do, you are free to try a mod I just did.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128593

I haven't found more than one issue using this... feedback are welcome, so we can find another issues on using this.

Sniper_Fox · 01-10-08, 12:10 PM

sounds good, however one question... as you can tell from my signature, ive had a "das boot" moment myself in gibraltar, i saved the boat, and limped back home, finally resting in the subpen on fumes... on stock SH3

on yer mod, will i be as severly damaged and limp back home in the same manner, or will i be just as good as a brand new boat, or a wee bit damaged, capable of mounting another attack or a counter attack on the destroyers?

also... what the hell are you talking about, i leave the damn boat on its own all the time, to cook, have a shower, do laundry, i've even walked the dogs. never have i died... i just leave it on 1x compression and mostly when im heading to my patrol site, or when im just putting out or heading home. NEVER leave it when you've just finished an engagement... the boat may have signalled an SOS

and you'll have either planes or a huge sh!t storm of destroyers heading for you.

also who here fights in the medeterranian? or am i the only one? lol:rotfl:

01-08-08, 06:43 PM	#1
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Sudden end game i hate the fact that you have no chance to save your boat usually... it just smashes right to the "haha you killed your crew jackass" screen.. is it possible to maybe let you go down with the the ship while she sinks till the superstructure implodes completely, so you at least have a chance to stop flooding and blow ballasts and what not to possibly give you a chance out of it? ive only sunk down once uncontrollably, and i saved myself... so i want to be able to do it again more often __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-08-08, 07:03 PM	#2
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,581 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	If it was possible, the GWX crew would have done it already. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

01-08-08, 07:03 PM	#3
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	well at least i didnt get my hopes up.... __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-08-08, 09:36 PM	#4
Schwuppes 中国水兵 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 279 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I don't quite understand what you mean.... if your boat sustaines damage you have time time fix it... if the damage and flooding is too severe you will start sinking to crush depth and die. As long as your repair crew is good enough and you have enough time you can save your boat.... blowing ballast tanks has saved me before, when I was slowly sinking deeper and deeper. What you are describing were it smashes to the "haha killed you" screen sounds like a depth charges must have exploded like 3 centimeters from your hull which will of course instantly kill any boat. __________________ E8400 @ 4.00Ghz standard vCore, Gigabyte P35C DS3R @ 445 Mhz, Leadtek GTX 280, 3 x 1GB Kingston DDR2 800 @ 890Mhz, 250GB +160GB HDD, Terratec DMX 6fire 24/96, Silverstone ST60F 600W, Logitech Z-5500 THX

01-08-08, 09:39 PM	#5
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	ive taken a depth charge in super shallow waters ( in the maltese port to be exact ) directly on my bow before... destroyed my hydrophone and bowplanes but i was able to stop flooding. and it wont let you sink to crush depth mosttimes, it just throws you to that screen __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-09-08, 12:55 AM	#8
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	so what do you suggest lehmann and what the hell is the timetravellers minitweaker __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

01-09-08, 01:37 AM	#10
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Kpt L is right... there are somethings that will change a bit. But you are changing to introduce more realism in exchange for a little less realism, coz lets agree, the instant death screen is the most irrealistic thing in the game. Anyway, depends on each individual person to decides what their game should look like. If anyone here hates that screen as much as I do, you are free to try a mod I just did. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128593 I haven't found more than one issue using this... feedback are welcome, so we can find another issues on using this.

01-10-08, 12:10 PM	#11
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	sounds good, however one question... as you can tell from my signature, ive had a "das boot" moment myself in gibraltar, i saved the boat, and limped back home, finally resting in the subpen on fumes... on stock SH3 on yer mod, will i be as severly damaged and limp back home in the same manner, or will i be just as good as a brand new boat, or a wee bit damaged, capable of mounting another attack or a counter attack on the destroyers? also... what the hell are you talking about, i leave the damn boat on its own all the time, to cook, have a shower, do laundry, i've even walked the dogs. never have i died... i just leave it on 1x compression and mostly when im heading to my patrol site, or when im just putting out or heading home. NEVER leave it when you've just finished an engagement... the boat may have signalled an SOS and you'll have either planes or a huge sh!t storm of destroyers heading for you. also who here fights in the medeterranian? or am i the only one? lol:rotfl: __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.