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Old 08-14-07, 07:15 PM   #1
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Default Air Attack, Crash Dive

I'm on my first campaign, stock SHIII, it's early 1940. Aircraft spotted, when I crash-dive, they seem to have plenty of time to plant one on me. Lucky for me, their aim is terrible, but I'm sure they'll get better. Any tips on surviving air attacks? Should I stay on the surface and evade? Fight it out with Flak (calm seas only)? Any tips on timing my dives?
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Old 08-14-07, 07:20 PM   #2
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If your close to coast, try making sure Bridge Efficency is at 100% so aircraft are spotted quickly. As soon as you have one spotted crash dive. They will normally put one on you becuase its not hard to judge where you are. So hard to Port or Starboard as soon as you start diving, wait afew secs, and then opposite direction.

I personnal flak it out. But gunners are poor early war form lack of exp.
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Old 08-14-07, 08:01 PM   #3
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Hi jazman,

There is also a shortcut you might like to try: for your L.I. the command icon set includes crash-dive + sharp turns (see curved-arrow icon). You can choose a right or left hook, 90 or 180 degrees. In all cases the boat levels off at 25 m, which will suffice for most bomber attacks.

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Old 08-14-07, 08:20 PM   #4
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OMGz

Im using GWX and Im here to tell ya that the pilots in the stock version of SH3 are yin yangs compared to GWX.
Maybe Im off my rocker BUT I was in CA 29 pretty much off the coast of LI NY(where I actually reside) cruising on the surface in broad daylight (Im ballsy like that) ..Aircraft spotted!!! Pfft nothing fer my Zupermen.. Im thinking ....and WAMMO ...I got lit up .. Oh Mein Got... Holy Jeebus I was on the bottom huggin Davey Jones faster than you can see Got en himmel.
How much tweaking did you give these guys sheesh. I remember playing the stock SH 3 and bringing down liberators and scoffing at the americaner shwinehund ..nothing survived my AA onslaught. It was unrealistic but fun. Now everytime my look outs even think they see a plane, Im the 1st one down the hatch an halfway to the forward torpedo room!!! Much more realistic <gasp>
Not too mention I can run submerged for a few hours, surface an the bastards are on me immediatley. Anyways Thanks for nothing!!! I just love limping my half suken uboat full of redded out compartments and DOA crewmen across the atlantic. (sarcasm) LOL
Oh well just another improvement I have seen that the uber dev team of GWX has graciously bestowed on an already good game.
If thats still the stock Aircraft AI...then im goin back to Battleship the board game!

PS sorry for the bad German I watch alot of old war movies and read too much Sgt Rock as a kid.
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Old 08-14-07, 10:53 PM   #5
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Dive, dive, dive!!!

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Old 08-15-07, 02:04 AM   #6
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I you fell somethings wrong or they start mumbling something down the conn tower, first you hit full ahead flank and remember to stop charging batteries. Those 2 seconds will give you a great advantage before your watch off tells how far and where is it. Than you decide if just show him your ass with the flak crew or dive with good speed which pushes you down faster. In 1944 when I hear AC spotted I have full pants already... it's far too late and only perform one of those two. Don't turn it takes your precious speed!

If you have warning device you can dive with ahead standard to 25m and go for 1-2 minutes. It's enough, they want have your current position. If a plane is spotted crash to the bottom, DC will be precise and even at 30m can make a lot of bad... the biggest concern is your ass sticking to the surface...

In general I've learned my lessons, on AC I simply dive... rarely fight back.
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Maybe your time compression was set too high. I could have been that the crew spotted the planes soon enough but SH3's game enginge has little inaccuracies when falling from high TC back to TC 1x.
That's why you shouldn't go higher than 512x in dangerous areas.

Because of this you should at first ask you watch officer for the range to the nearest enemy or sighting when a plane was spotted. If it is already close (perhaps under 2km)
you should probably fight back at it's first run.

But the general rule would be to dive, as everybody else already said. Only those things with the time compression changing back to 1x too late are to be considered too.
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Old 08-15-07, 10:36 AM   #8
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I you fell somethings wrong or they start mumbling something down the conn tower, first you hit full ahead flank and remember to stop charging batteries. Those 2 seconds will give you a great advantage before your watch off tells how far and where is it. Than you decide if just show him your ass with the flak crew or dive with good speed which pushes you down faster. In 1944 when I hear AC spotted I have full pants already... it's far too late and only perform one of those two. Don't turn it takes your precious speed!

If you have warning device you can dive with ahead standard to 25m and go for 1-2 minutes. It's enough, they want have your current position. If a plane is spotted crash to the bottom, DC will be precise and even at 30m can make a lot of bad... the biggest concern is your ass sticking to the surface...

In general I've learned my lessons, on AC I simply dive... rarely fight back.

But that only works if your on the bridge 24-7 really going full realism.
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