help fps is weird

Jmack · 07-12-07, 07:29 PM

unnistalled all mods ...
installed 1.3 patch in to out of the box SH4

enabled compatible mods like ... remove grainy effect
my fps keeps jumping from small values like 4 , 5 or 6 to values from 40 to 100
i disabled all ... i mean everything is set to minimum and it stutters like crazy
in particular the ships and submarine wakes seem to jump back and forth they dont stant still or flow like they used to . what is pissing me of is that i used to being able to run the game with all maximum settings

nvidia settings are set to " application controled "

drivers are last version 94.24

2048 ram
geforce 7300 gt 512mb
dual core 6400 2.14ghz
windows xp

RickC Sniper · 07-12-07, 07:41 PM

You have posted this on several threads now.

I have a similar computer but my video card is an ATI. Version 1.3 runs about the same as version 1.2 on it.

...........when all else fails, I reinstall.

SUBMAN1 · 07-12-07, 07:43 PM

I just did a quick mission from a fresh install and got the same result. I was playing the battle of midway and I was forcing the ships to shoot at me however, so the fact an entire fleet was trying to kill me might have something to do with it.

-S

Jmack · 07-12-07, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickC Sniper

You have posted this on several threads now.

i know i did ... because i tried to post it on related subject topics about fps , maybe someone had same problem and managed to fix it

im now trying the on and off mods to see if its caused by any of them ...

ReallyDedPoet · 07-12-07, 09:45 PM

No noticable fps changes with 1.3 jmack, maybe someone else will have somrthing to
offer

RDP

Jmack · 07-12-07, 09:53 PM

are you guys running it clean with no mods ?
i have very little change in fps with or without mods
and im no expert but i think its one of the camera mods

ReallyDedPoet · 07-12-07, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmack

are you guys running it clean with no mods ?
i have very little change in fps with or without mods
and im no expert but i think its one of the camera mods

Here are the mods I am running:

Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1,2
SILENT SERVICE 1.2 GRAPHICS MOD
SMALLER SEABED ROCKS
SMALLER SEA PLANTS SMALL
Better Jungle and Trees
DD_SHIV_Debris_V1.2.01
DD_SHIV_Debris_V1.2.01_Update
Sound Mod
GreenLamp
bs_silrun_all_menus
NO Orange Mark
Slow Smoke v3
Improved Night Visibility Mod Stage 1
LESS WATER LIMBER HOLES
Remove grain effect
GATO REDFIN SS 272
MUZZLE FLASH 1.1
Oaks Gauges
WAVE FIX
USS Thresher SS-200

RDP

maerean_m · 07-13-07, 05:04 AM

Very important:

The drop of FPS is a known behaviour of SH4 3D engine. It happends because the rendering of the water is too complex for the video card and, periodically (like every 20-30 frames), it runs out of memory buffers. The buffers are then flushed and it starts with a clean cache.

The only solution is to lower the quality options that affect the rendering of the water.

PS: this never happends on very powerful video cards because they can handle the water even at the greatest quality.

sportcap · 07-13-07, 05:49 AM

Can someone tell me how to see framerate ingame? I have ati tray tools but can´t see any framerates.

AVGWarhawk · 07-13-07, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportcap

Can someone tell me how to see framerate ingame? I have ati tray tools but can´t see any framerates.

When in game hit Ctrl/F8.

sportcap · 07-13-07, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportcap

Can someone tell me how to see framerate ingame? I have ati tray tools but can´t see any framerates.

When in game hit Ctrl/F8.

Thank you!

SteamWake · 07-13-07, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmack

unnistalled all mods ...
enabled compatible mods like ...

As far as I know there is no definative "compatible" mods... at least not yet.

For now its use at your own risk.

I was thinking that would be a good project to put together a 'list' of which mods work with 1.3. Or for that matter which ones cause problems.

I patched up (after removing all mods) and went out on patrol to ensure stability. Everything was fine except the battery life in my gato was absurd. Pretty sure they could get more than 8 hours out of the batteries. I had not as yet applied the realistic battery mod yet.

Excalibur Bane · 07-13-07, 10:13 AM

I had to scrap my career from '41 to '43. It was simply too damaged by the various bugs. Not happy.

Hanzo · 07-13-07, 10:48 AM

Since (cleanly) installing 1.3 I've had this EXACT same issue.

It doesn't matter what settings you have, you could be running it at 640x480 with nothing turned on and it'd still go at around 2 fps.

It seems to have something to do with the wakes/boats.. If I look out into the empty sea, I get 100 fps.

As soon as I turn the camera around to look at one measely little warship, the game stutters so violently I have to hammer the ESC key at least 10 times before it responds (and then do battle with the laggy mouse).

NOOOOOOOOO, basically

WTF!

stabiz · 07-13-07, 10:54 AM

I had a similar experince when trying out a beta driver today. At 1280x1024 it went fine with everything maxed out (but the damned stutters were back, despite 70-100 fps with 8x AA), but when I set resolution to 1600x1200 I got 2-6fps. What the ...?

Switched back to the latest official driver, and the stutters were gone (70-120 fps).

Core2Duo 2,4ghz
2048mb DDR2 ram
8800 GTS

All in all, 1.3 is pretty much the same as 1.2 for me, I would try a different driver if there are problems.

07-12-07, 07:29 PM	#1
Jmack Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 669 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	help fps is weird unnistalled all mods ... installed 1.3 patch in to out of the box SH4 enabled compatible mods like ... remove grainy effect my fps keeps jumping from small values like 4 , 5 or 6 to values from 40 to 100 i disabled all ... i mean everything is set to minimum and it stutters like crazy in particular the ships and submarine wakes seem to jump back and forth they dont stant still or flow like they used to . what is pissing me of is that i used to being able to run the game with all maximum settings nvidia settings are set to " application controled " drivers are last version 94.24 2048 ram geforce 7300 gt 512mb dual core 6400 2.14ghz windows xp __________________ "victim's ? ... arent we all ? "

07-12-07, 07:41 PM	#2
RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	You have posted this on several threads now. I have a similar computer but my video card is an ATI. Version 1.3 runs about the same as version 1.2 on it. ...........when all else fails, I reinstall. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html

07-12-07, 07:43 PM	#3
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I just did a quick mission from a fresh install and got the same result. I was playing the battle of midway and I was forcing the ships to shoot at me however, so the fact an entire fleet was trying to kill me might have something to do with it. -S __________________

07-12-07, 09:45 PM	#5
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,888 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	No noticable fps changes with 1.3 jmack, maybe someone else will have somrthing to offer RDP __________________ Back in the Day

07-12-07, 09:53 PM	#6
Jmack Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 669 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	are you guys running it clean with no mods ? i have very little change in fps with or without mods and im no expert but i think its one of the camera mods __________________ "victim's ? ... arent we all ? "

07-13-07, 05:04 AM	#8
maerean_m Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 529 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Very important: The drop of FPS is a known behaviour of SH4 3D engine. It happends because the rendering of the water is too complex for the video card and, periodically (like every 20-30 frames), it runs out of memory buffers. The buffers are then flushed and it starts with a clean cache. The only solution is to lower the quality options that affect the rendering of the water. PS: this never happends on very powerful video cards because they can handle the water even at the greatest quality. __________________ Kilroy was here

07-13-07, 05:49 AM	#9
sportcap Watch Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Can someone tell me how to see framerate ingame? I have ati tray tools but can´t see any framerates. __________________

07-13-07, 10:13 AM	#13
Excalibur Bane XO Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 429 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I had to scrap my career from '41 to '43. It was simply too damaged by the various bugs. Not happy. __________________ Looking for a list of mods for SH4? Everything you need is here: List Of Modifications for SH4 v1.3 "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing."

07-13-07, 10:48 AM	#14
Hanzo Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 21 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	.. same here :( Since (cleanly) installing 1.3 I've had this EXACT same issue. It doesn't matter what settings you have, you could be running it at 640x480 with nothing turned on and it'd still go at around 2 fps. It seems to have something to do with the wakes/boats.. If I look out into the empty sea, I get 100 fps. As soon as I turn the camera around to look at one measely little warship, the game stutters so violently I have to hammer the ESC key at least 10 times before it responds (and then do battle with the laggy mouse). NOOOOOOOOO, basically WTF!

07-13-07, 10:54 AM	#15
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I had a similar experince when trying out a beta driver today. At 1280x1024 it went fine with everything maxed out (but the damned stutters were back, despite 70-100 fps with 8x AA), but when I set resolution to 1600x1200 I got 2-6fps. What the ...? Switched back to the latest official driver, and the stutters were gone (70-120 fps). Core2Duo 2,4ghz 2048mb DDR2 ram 8800 GTS All in all, 1.3 is pretty much the same as 1.2 for me, I would try a different driver if there are problems. __________________