GWX AI has Eagle Eyes!!

TwistedFemur · 06-26-07, 08:13 PM

Ok September 9, 1939 come across a HUGE convoy sailing west at 9Knts in sector BE61. The southernmost escort is just visible to me check the UZO and it give me a range of around 11.5 KM's its a hazy day around 10am so turn west and order flank to get ahead of the convoy next thing I see is splashes

WTF that escort SAW ME and is now charging hard, he had to have saw me because i didnt think they had radar in 1939 let alone flower class corvettes

Am I incorrect about the radar? or does GWX have eagle eyed escorts?

Packerton · 06-26-07, 08:25 PM

Tell me about it.

I was at 20 meters (no sign of my sub above water periscope was fully down) on my first patrol in 1939 on my new Career.

I got a merchant contact moveing slow, Moved to intercept then came up to periscope depth to launch my attack.....when I raised my scope the merchant was already in THE MIDDLE OF EVASIVE ACTION

I never figured out how he detected me.

Whether was Calm by the way so my con tower wasent sticking up.

red_one · 06-26-07, 10:22 PM

Your bosun's been doing some drum practice on the pressure hull. That's how they found you.

Reece · 06-26-07, 11:55 PM

Whilst moving your periscope leaves a wake, what I do is move within a few kilometers go silent, stop, wait a half minute, raise scope just out of water, get relative information, mark down details then lower scope to consider my options, I always try to make a 90 degree approach ahead of the convoy!

Penelope_Grey · 06-27-07, 03:02 AM

No but if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

At night however, its a different story... if it were me, Id have stayed under all day, following their general route on the map. Then at night, I'd have been up to the surface and at least 2 ships would be going to the bottom. That's how ya do it.

Canovaro · 06-27-07, 03:15 AM

Penelope is a very patient kaleuness

TwistedFemur · 06-27-07, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_one

Your bosun's been doing some drum practice on the pressure hull. That's how they found you.

Normally I would agree with you but ....I was surfaced

TwistedFemur · 06-27-07, 06:26 AM

After reading all your posts I will install the 16km mod

Penelope_Grey · 06-27-07, 06:27 AM

Quote:

if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

Also since you were going ahead flank you would have been splashing a bit too which would help them spot you.

06-27-07, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Quote:

if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

Also since you were going ahead flank you would have been splashing a bit too which would help them spot you.

true

, remember that before a night surface convoy attack

gg. · 06-27-07, 02:29 PM

I think GWX is great, but sometimes i really don't understand how escorts detect me (at night especially or at sunset or dawn when i'm in the dark side of the horizon!)

Swooth · 06-27-07, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gg.

I think GWX is great, but sometimes i really don't understand how escorts detect me (at night especially or at sunset or dawn when i'm in the dark side of the horizon!)

Perhaps they were out looking for a wonderful sunrise, only to see something moving in the water to ruin their precious sight and declare to get even. Something to think about :hmm:

I can't say I've really had the eagle eyes thing happen to me, except once. I had a merchant visual, so I started the chase and dived under and stalked it for awhile. After I believed I had a well enough attack route set up, I raised the periscope up a bit only to see it in evasive action. I fired anyway, and I missed. So all the way to my patrol grid I was a tad bit bitter about that, but on the way back I found two ships of more value, and I got em. So it all worked out, really. Though I really would've liked that ship.

06-26-07, 08:13 PM	#1
TwistedFemur Frogman Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	GWX AI has Eagle Eyes!! Ok September 9, 1939 come across a HUGE convoy sailing west at 9Knts in sector BE61. The southernmost escort is just visible to me check the UZO and it give me a range of around 11.5 KM's its a hazy day around 10am so turn west and order flank to get ahead of the convoy next thing I see is splashes WTF that escort SAW ME and is now charging hard, he had to have saw me because i didnt think they had radar in 1939 let alone flower class corvettes Am I incorrect about the radar? or does GWX have eagle eyed escorts? __________________ <a href="http://www.dewmocracy.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.dewmocracy.com/images/banner_distortion.jpg" border="0" alt="Vote for MTN DEW(R) Distortion(TM) - Dewmocracy.com" /></a>

06-26-07, 11:55 PM	#4
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,798 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Whilst moving your periscope leaves a wake, what I do is move within a few kilometers go silent, stop, wait a half minute, raise scope just out of water, get relative information, mark down details then lower scope to consider my options, I always try to make a 90 degree approach ahead of the convoy! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

06-27-07, 03:02 AM	#5
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No but if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem. At night however, its a different story... if it were me, Id have stayed under all day, following their general route on the map. Then at night, I'd have been up to the surface and at least 2 ships would be going to the bottom. That's how ya do it. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

06-27-07, 06:26 AM	#8
TwistedFemur Frogman Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	After reading all your posts I will install the 16km mod __________________ <a href="http://www.dewmocracy.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.dewmocracy.com/images/banner_distortion.jpg" border="0" alt="Vote for MTN DEW(R) Distortion(TM) - Dewmocracy.com" /></a>

06-26-07, 08:25 PM	#2
Packerton Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newfoundland,Canada Posts: 398 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Tell me about it. I was at 20 meters (no sign of my sub above water periscope was fully down) on my first patrol in 1939 on my new Career. I got a merchant contact moveing slow, Moved to intercept then came up to periscope depth to launch my attack.....when I raised my scope the merchant was already in THE MIDDLE OF EVASIVE ACTION I never figured out how he detected me. Whether was Calm by the way so my con tower wasent sticking up.

06-26-07, 10:22 PM	#3
red_one Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 14 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Your bosun's been doing some drum practice on the pressure hull. That's how they found you.

06-27-07, 03:15 AM	#6
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Penelope is a very patient kaleuness

06-27-07, 02:29 PM	#11
gg. Watch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 28 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I think GWX is great, but sometimes i really don't understand how escorts detect me (at night especially or at sunset or dawn when i'm in the dark side of the horizon!)