Frustrating Photo Recon Mission

bsalyers · 06-15-07, 10:23 AM

I'd like to add my own bizarre experience to those who have had problems with carrier recon missions:

I was tasked with doing photo reconnaissance of a carrier group in the enemy port of Dalian. I arrived with about 30,000 tons in marus sunk along the way and 6 fish forward should an opportunity present itself. I crept up to the sub net in late afternoon and raised my scope to see detailed views of two carriers, one at medium and one at close range. I snapped several photos of both. My mission was still marked "incomplete." At a loss, I also took snaps of the Fubuki escort hovering in the background... Nothing. "Well," I thought, "I'm pretty close, but maybe I need to get closer." I waitied until nightfall, surfaced, and crept over the net. Though it was dark and I immediately submerged again, I unfortunately attracted the attention of the destroyer. He headed over, pinging away, and I sent all three remaining stern torpedoes at him in a hail-Mary defense. I missed and prepared to die. There was much loudness and damage to my boat, but then everything got quiet again. After a few minutes, I raised my scope to find that the destroyer had gutted itself on my indestructible Balao! Futily, I took a few more snapshots, now close enough to see their dental work. "Well, heck," I thought, "if I can't complete my mission, I might as well try to sink one of these big boys." I fired all six fish. The first torpedo blew the thing sky high! Perhaps there was a tiny chance of this realistically occurring, but it seems far-fetched to me, kind of like a destroyer breaking herself in two on a submarine in shallow water.

As light was starting to break, I lined myself out while submerged, popped up right in front of the sub net and made flank speed out of there. I'm now headed back, happy to have survived but overall dismayed at the whole thing. I still have no idea why I couldn't complete my mission. While the manual offers almost no info about the parameters of these missions, this is the first one I have completely failed to figure out. I took many, many photos at close range, but it just didn't matter.

ReallyDedPoet · 06-15-07, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bsalyers

I'd like to add my own bizarre experience to those who have had problems with carrier recon missions:

I was tasked with doing photo reconnaissance of a carrier group in the enemy port of Dalian. I arrived with about 30,000 tons in marus sunk along the way and 6 fish forward should an opportunity present itself. I crept up to the sub net in late afternoon and raised my scope to see detailed views of two carriers, one at medium and one at close range. I snapped several photos of both. My mission was still marked "incomplete." At a loss, I also took snaps of the Fubuki escort hovering in the background... Nothing. "Well," I thought, "I'm pretty close, but maybe I need to get closer." I waitied until nightfall, surfaced, and crept over the net. Though it was dark and I immediately submerged again, I unfortunately attracted the attention of the destroyer. He headed over, pinging away, and I sent all three remaining stern torpedoes at him in a hail-Mary defense. I missed and prepared to die. There was much loudness and damage to my boat, but then everything got quiet again. After a few minutes, I raised my scope to find that the destroyer had gutted itself on my indestructible Balao! Futily, I took a few more snapshots, now close enough to see their dental work. "Well, heck," I thought, "if I can't complete my mission, I might as well try to sink one of these big boys." I fired all six fish. The first torpedo blew the thing sky high! Perhaps there was a tiny chance of this realistically occurring, but it seems far-fetched to me, kind of like a destroyer breaking herself in two on a submarine in shallow water.

As light was starting to break, I lined myself out while submerged, popped up right in front of the sub net and made flank speed out of there. I'm now headed back, happy to have survived but overall dismayed at the whole thing. I still have no idea why I couldn't complete my mission. While the manual offers almost no info about the parameters of these missions, this is the first one I have completely failed to figure out. I took many, many photos at close range, but it just didn't matter.

There may be something in here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109199

Not sure if you have seen this or not, and yes the game manual sucks

RDP

tater · 06-15-07, 10:34 AM

The range makes no difference, if the camera button is lit up you still need to take a pic. It's 1 pic of each ship, so you just need to find all of them.

That said, I'm looking forward to removing those missions, they are pretty stupid. Subs didn't go into ports really. Better would be to allow pics of beach objects, I think the only recon missions were places like Tarawa.

As for the CVs, they are ridiculous to sink, IMO. Lareg warships should be challenging targets, I have much better luck with a single fish vs a CV than I do vs a DD (since deep runners make hitting a DD hard).

tater

SteamWake · 06-15-07, 12:30 PM

Got to give him an E for effort though !

crapgame · 06-15-07, 07:05 PM

My next mission in a campaign game is to do a photo recon of manila for CVs. It is December 30, 1941 game time. Since Manila is still an open city maybe me and the crew can sneak into a few clubs. Does anybody know if they are open between bombing raids?

tater · 06-15-07, 07:08 PM

That mission won't turn out well in my campaign files since I altered start dates, or plain eliminated traffic from places where it doesn't belong.

momo55 · 06-15-07, 07:36 PM

There where 2 carriers en 4 DD's in Dalian when i hade that mission and i play with the trigger maru mod. Could not compleet it and still dont know way . Took pics of all night and day .Markt there position on the map and later when i was able to surface the radar confirmed all .

It was my 5th or 6th photo recon and never had any problems completing it.

06-15-07, 10:23 AM	#1
bsalyers Sparky Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 152 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Frustrating Photo Recon Mission I'd like to add my own bizarre experience to those who have had problems with carrier recon missions: I was tasked with doing photo reconnaissance of a carrier group in the enemy port of Dalian. I arrived with about 30,000 tons in marus sunk along the way and 6 fish forward should an opportunity present itself. I crept up to the sub net in late afternoon and raised my scope to see detailed views of two carriers, one at medium and one at close range. I snapped several photos of both. My mission was still marked "incomplete." At a loss, I also took snaps of the Fubuki escort hovering in the background... Nothing. "Well," I thought, "I'm pretty close, but maybe I need to get closer." I waitied until nightfall, surfaced, and crept over the net. Though it was dark and I immediately submerged again, I unfortunately attracted the attention of the destroyer. He headed over, pinging away, and I sent all three remaining stern torpedoes at him in a hail-Mary defense. I missed and prepared to die. There was much loudness and damage to my boat, but then everything got quiet again. After a few minutes, I raised my scope to find that the destroyer had gutted itself on my indestructible Balao! Futily, I took a few more snapshots, now close enough to see their dental work. "Well, heck," I thought, "if I can't complete my mission, I might as well try to sink one of these big boys." I fired all six fish. The first torpedo blew the thing sky high! Perhaps there was a tiny chance of this realistically occurring, but it seems far-fetched to me, kind of like a destroyer breaking herself in two on a submarine in shallow water. As light was starting to break, I lined myself out while submerged, popped up right in front of the sub net and made flank speed out of there. I'm now headed back, happy to have survived but overall dismayed at the whole thing. I still have no idea why I couldn't complete my mission. While the manual offers almost no info about the parameters of these missions, this is the first one I have completely failed to figure out. I took many, many photos at close range, but it just didn't matter.

06-15-07, 07:05 PM	#5
crapgame Bosun Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 62 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My next mission in a campaign game is to do a photo recon of manila for CVs. It is December 30, 1941 game time. Since Manila is still an open city maybe me and the crew can sneak into a few clubs. Does anybody know if they are open between bombing raids? __________________ A DEAL, deal! Maybe he's a Republican. You know, "Business is business."

06-15-07, 07:36 PM	#7
momo55 Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 297 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	There where 2 carriers en 4 DD's in Dalian when i hade that mission and i play with the trigger maru mod. Could not compleet it and still dont know way . Took pics of all night and day .Markt there position on the map and later when i was able to surface the radar confirmed all . It was my 5th or 6th photo recon and never had any problems completing it. __________________ Our greatest glory is not in never failing , but in rising up every time we fail .

06-15-07, 10:34 AM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The range makes no difference, if the camera button is lit up you still need to take a pic. It's 1 pic of each ship, so you just need to find all of them. That said, I'm looking forward to removing those missions, they are pretty stupid. Subs didn't go into ports really. Better would be to allow pics of beach objects, I think the only recon missions were places like Tarawa. As for the CVs, they are ridiculous to sink, IMO. Lareg warships should be challenging targets, I have much better luck with a single fish vs a CV than I do vs a DD (since deep runners make hitting a DD hard). tater

06-15-07, 12:30 PM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Got to give him an E for effort though !

06-15-07, 07:08 PM	#6
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	That mission won't turn out well in my campaign files since I altered start dates, or plain eliminated traffic from places where it doesn't belong.