Brag's Wiggle Waggle Maneuvre.

Brag · 05-05-07, 01:13 PM

Achtung Kaleuns!

This carefully developed, researched and tested maneuvre drives escorts nuts. If you perform it after launching your torpedoes at a convoy, chances are the escorts will never get a fix on your position because they will be looking for you elswhere.

Execution:
The moment you launch your last torpedo, order ahead flank and a depth of 100 meters. You follow by changing course 20 degrees (either port or starboard) --This is the Wiggle.

As you reach 50 meters, order speed of one knot. Inmediately change course 20 degrees in the opposite direction of the Wiggle. Now you are drifting silently in the Waggle.

The escorts will pass you by and look for you elswhere.

This maneuvre has worked for me on four GWX patrols. Let me know how it works for you

Paajtor · 05-05-07, 01:41 PM

Gonna try it on next occasion...is it ok too, if I waggle first before I wiggle? :rotfl:

GoldenRivet · 05-05-07, 01:53 PM

Brag thats almost exacly what i do when i hit a large convoy with a lot of escorts... you should mention though that if you advance to flank speed and make the turn you will almost guarantee yourself to be detected therfore if your shots have any kind of longer range to them you might wait until they are within 20 seconds of impact to start making a lot of noise.... otherwise the convoy may zig zag around your eels.

byt yea, it works... historically i guess they go for the sound of where the torpedo launch was heard? but you can be several hundred meters away from the scene and very deep by the time the first escort arrives.

Sailor Steve · 05-05-07, 03:26 PM

I usually go silent as soon as the last one's away, and start diving immediately. I hate making lots of noise.

rb4door · 05-05-07, 09:11 PM

keeping in mind I dont want to alert my presence immediately after i've launched the fish, i'm definately trying this method out.

I suppose if you are in a convoy and the ships are already taking evasive manouvers, it wont hurt to do it immediately after firing.

Brag · 05-05-07, 09:15 PM

I just pulled it off again after torpedoing a Revenge inside a tight screen of 4 or 5 destroyers.

They never even got close

TarJak · 05-05-07, 09:20 PM

I do something like this when crash diving from aircraft attacks however I keep going at flank cos they can't hear me.

I go flank and start a 10 degree rudder turn away from the direction the plane is approaching, then when I get to about 15m I switch 10 degrees, back staying at flank and going for 60m as fast as possible.

When firing I stay quiet unless I know I'm detected and start diving as soon as the eels are on their way. If I then get picked up I might go flank but again only use 10 degree rudder so it doesn't slow me down too much. The dive will knock a knot or two off anyway so I want as much downward force as possible moving me out of the way.

05-05-07, 01:13 PM	#1
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Brag's Wiggle Waggle Maneuvre. Achtung Kaleuns! This carefully developed, researched and tested maneuvre drives escorts nuts. If you perform it after launching your torpedoes at a convoy, chances are the escorts will never get a fix on your position because they will be looking for you elswhere. Execution: The moment you launch your last torpedo, order ahead flank and a depth of 100 meters. You follow by changing course 20 degrees (either port or starboard) --This is the Wiggle. As you reach 50 meters, order speed of one knot. Inmediately change course 20 degrees in the opposite direction of the Wiggle. Now you are drifting silently in the Waggle. The escorts will pass you by and look for you elswhere. This maneuvre has worked for me on four GWX patrols. Let me know how it works for you __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-05-07, 01:41 PM	#2
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	Gonna try it on next occasion...is it ok too, if I waggle first before I wiggle? :rotfl: __________________

05-05-07, 01:53 PM	#3
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Brag thats almost exacly what i do when i hit a large convoy with a lot of escorts... you should mention though that if you advance to flank speed and make the turn you will almost guarantee yourself to be detected therfore if your shots have any kind of longer range to them you might wait until they are within 20 seconds of impact to start making a lot of noise.... otherwise the convoy may zig zag around your eels. byt yea, it works... historically i guess they go for the sound of where the torpedo launch was heard? but you can be several hundred meters away from the scene and very deep by the time the first escort arrives. __________________

05-05-07, 03:26 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I usually go silent as soon as the last one's away, and start diving immediately. I hate making lots of noise. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-05-07, 09:15 PM	#6
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I just pulled it off again after torpedoing a Revenge inside a tight screen of 4 or 5 destroyers. They never even got close __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-05-07, 09:11 PM	#5
rb4door Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St Naz Posts: 129 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	keeping in mind I dont want to alert my presence immediately after i've launched the fish, i'm definately trying this method out. I suppose if you are in a convoy and the ships are already taking evasive manouvers, it wont hurt to do it immediately after firing.

05-05-07, 09:20 PM	#7
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I do something like this when crash diving from aircraft attacks however I keep going at flank cos they can't hear me. I go flank and start a 10 degree rudder turn away from the direction the plane is approaching, then when I get to about 15m I switch 10 degrees, back staying at flank and going for 60m as fast as possible. When firing I stay quiet unless I know I'm detected and start diving as soon as the eels are on their way. If I then get picked up I might go flank but again only use 10 degree rudder so it doesn't slow me down too much. The dive will knock a knot or two off anyway so I want as much downward force as possible moving me out of the way.