Yamato v. Bismark

Jwiliamson · 05-02-07, 02:32 AM

Just wondering,
In a one on one battle who do you think would win, taking into account crew experience and command strategy.

JohnW

joea · 05-02-07, 02:43 AM

These 1 on 1 are always kind of silly...if the Yamato was accompanied by DDs or CAs with those long lances...bye bye Bismarck.

Hitman · 05-02-07, 07:23 AM

Hi Jwiliamson, and wellcome aboard

Your question might be answered in detail here:

http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm

mookiemookie · 05-02-07, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Hi Jwiliamson, and wellcome aboard

Your question might be answered in detail here:

http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm

Interesting page! Thanks for sharing that...

Apparently the Iowa would have smoked them both.

FIREWALL · 05-02-07, 11:13 AM

OH BOY!!!

This one's easy.

1. Command experience

2. Crew experience

3. Who got off the lucky first salvo

:p

Von Manteuffel · 05-02-07, 11:48 AM

No contest, really! The Yamato's main armament had a maximum range of around 45,000 yards, while Bismarks main guns could only reach 39,000. That difference in range of around 3.5 miles, would have meant that the Yamato could have stayed out of Bismark's reach while pumping out her 18-inch shells. Accuracy at maximum range would have been rubbish, but a few lucky hits would have done significant damage to the pride of the Kriegsmarine. It would simply have been a question of sailing out of Bismarks range until the Yamato either sank her, or ran out of shells.

Palidian · 05-02-07, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

OH BOY!!!

This one's easy.

3. Who got off the lucky first salvo

:p

Actually it was the last 1/2 (C and D turrets) from Bismark that they think scored the fatal hit on the Hood, note that the Prinz Eugen already scored a hit and caused a fire, some claim that this fire actually caused a chain reaction that sank the Hood.

As for lucky hits, the PoW scored three hits on the Bismark, the first hit proved to be fatal from the PoW's 6th salvo and hit the Bismark before the Bismark hit he Hood. It took out the front fuel supply, and forced the Bismark to slow down.

Some claim that the German gunnery was more accurate, however a study of this battle showed them to be about the same. It is a small sample however.

nfitzsimmons · 05-02-07, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwiliamson

Just wondering,
In a one on one battle who do you think would win, taking into account crew experience and command strategy.

JohnW

Sort of like Alien VS Predator.

jetthelooter · 05-02-07, 09:11 AM

if yamamoto was in command and hitler in command of his ship they would both stay in port afraid of fighting each other...

Sailor Steve · 05-02-07, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jetthelooter

if yamamoto was in command and hitler in command of his ship they would both stay in port afraid of fighting each other...

Not so. Hitler was an armchair general, at best. Yamamoto was a navy man all the way. As a young ensign he was wounded at the battle of Tsushima Straight in 1905. Given an opportunity to command a ship in combat, he would gladly have taken it.

kakemann · 05-02-07, 10:26 AM

Hmmm.. I guess I'll have to try making a own mission in SH4 mission editor.
This could be interesting!

I'm guessing Yamato...

But in real life? No idea

kakemann · 05-02-07, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kakemann

Hmmm.. I guess I'll have to try making a own mission in SH4 mission editor.
This could be interesting!

I'm guessing Yamato...

But in real life? No idea

I forgot that those two ships belonged to AXIS forces

So I tried with King George battleship against Yamato.

Yamato crushed King George!

joea · 05-02-07, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jetthelooter

if yamamoto was in command and hitler in command of his ship they would both stay in port afraid of fighting each other...

You're comparing Yamamoto to Hitler as naval commanders? :rotfl:

Palidian · 05-02-07, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwiliamson

Just wondering,
In a one on one battle who do you think would win, taking into account crew experience and command strategy.

JohnW

Bismark is really an overrated ship.

dean_acheson · 05-02-07, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Palidian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jwiliamson

Just wondering,
In a one on one battle who do you think would win, taking into account crew experience and command strategy.

JohnW

Bismark is really an overrated ship.

Totally agree with the nub here. The Bismarck did what? Sink an underarmored battlecruiser? Any Iowa, Yamato, or South Dakota would stomp this ship. The Bismarck is basically an upgunned battlecruiser.....

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joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	These 1 on 1 are always kind of silly...if the Yamato was accompanied by DDs or CAs with those long lances...bye bye Bismarck.

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Von Manteuffel Commander Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 0	No contest, really! The Yamato's main armament had a maximum range of around 45,000 yards, while Bismarks main guns could only reach 39,000. That difference in range of around 3.5 miles, would have meant that the Yamato could have stayed out of Bismark's reach while pumping out her 18-inch shells. Accuracy at maximum range would have been rubbish, but a few lucky hits would have done significant damage to the pride of the Kriegsmarine. It would simply have been a question of sailing out of Bismarks range until the Yamato either sank her, or ran out of shells.

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jetthelooter Watch Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 24 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	if yamamoto was in command and hitler in command of his ship they would both stay in port afraid of fighting each other...