Some strategic advice please.

cardician · 03-30-07, 09:09 AM

Ok, so this patrol I'm on I decided to go a different route. Turned the realism way down by eliminating the limited air and fuel supplies. So after completing my patrol I decide to head up to that torpedo base NE of England. On the way I come across a couple of British merchants that I down with the giddiness of a schoolboy. Finally I get close to the base and start detecting warships. There are two of them north of me patrolling the area.

So what should I do? What's the best approach here? It's the middle of the night, decent weather. Should I get close to them on the surface or should I creep by low down?

Last time I tried to stalk a destroyer he somehow just "knew" I was around once he got within a certain range and started heading right for me. I have no idea how as I never heard any active pinging and it was night then too so he certainly couldn't have seen my snorkel. I'm wondering if perhaps that's the "advanced" ai. Either way, what do you guys think would be my best approach to get two more threats out of Germany's hair?

Jimbuna · 03-30-07, 09:16 AM

If your hell bent on carrying out what will probably be a suicide mission then you either submerge to periscope depth and torpedo them or set your speed to 2 knots silent running and try to creep past them. Never attempt to pass them by on the surface.

Brag · 03-30-07, 09:18 AM

Best strategy:

Stay away from shallow water!

Mooncatt · 03-30-07, 09:26 AM

yup if its shallow dont even go there u will be dead, u need about 250m water under you, then if you still wanna do it make sure its night and the weather is bad i.e storm. go as deep as poss (i assume its either a VII sub??) about 200m should do it with 2knts silent running, you should make it.
i doubt however the water is that deep and you say the weather is good? i assume this means light winds and calm water? if so forget it their sonar is much better in this kind of weather.

cardician · 03-30-07, 09:37 AM

LOL.

From these responses, this will be quite funny to most of you.

Actually its December of '39 and I'm in a IIA with only 3 fish left. So you're saying this is a bad idea? I'm not so much trying to get into the harbor or whatever this torpedo base is, as specifically take out these two DDs.

I thougth U-boats were great at surfaced night attacks. No? C'mon...this can't be that bad of an idea

Jimbuna · 03-30-07, 09:48 AM

Exactly which harbour are you approaching and what version of the game are you playing ? :hmm:

raduz · 03-30-07, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cardician

LOL.

From these responses, this will be quite funny to most of you.

Actually its December of '39 and I'm in a IIA with only 3 fish left. So you're saying this is a bad idea? I'm not so much trying to get into the harbor or whatever this torpedo base is, as specifically take out these two DDs.

I thougth U-boats were great at surfaced night attacks. No? C'mon...this can't be that bad of an idea

Let DDs go... Focus on merchants. They are much more valuable targets. By sinking DDs, you cause only minor damage to the Royal Navy. The DDs are not worth the risk you undergo when attacking them. We all know you are a brave warrior

but the u-boat war is not about bravery... I mean, you can act bravely when you attack King George, but dont risk the lives of your crew for two priceless destroyers.

Brag · 03-30-07, 09:51 AM

Once a U-boat reveals its presence, it is a vulnerable steel tube. You need room to escape. There is no room in shallow water, so you are simply hero material like a dead duck.

Gedscho · 03-30-07, 09:59 AM

if you go faster than minimum speed (slow speed ahead?) they will be able to hear you, even without sonar pinging you. (i play with noise metre, since i had no kriegsmarine training- heck im glad about that btw)

i tried to run the street of dover at the beginning of the war, several times. once the dd spots you in shallow water, i think the ONLY way of evading them is to maneuver yourself around til you get an opportunity to sink it.

correct me if im wrong, please.

03-30-07, 09:09 AM	#1
cardician Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 115 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Some strategic advice please. Ok, so this patrol I'm on I decided to go a different route. Turned the realism way down by eliminating the limited air and fuel supplies. So after completing my patrol I decide to head up to that torpedo base NE of England. On the way I come across a couple of British merchants that I down with the giddiness of a schoolboy. Finally I get close to the base and start detecting warships. There are two of them north of me patrolling the area. So what should I do? What's the best approach here? It's the middle of the night, decent weather. Should I get close to them on the surface or should I creep by low down? Last time I tried to stalk a destroyer he somehow just "knew" I was around once he got within a certain range and started heading right for me. I have no idea how as I never heard any active pinging and it was night then too so he certainly couldn't have seen my snorkel. I'm wondering if perhaps that's the "advanced" ai. Either way, what do you guys think would be my best approach to get two more threats out of Germany's hair?

03-30-07, 09:16 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	If your hell bent on carrying out what will probably be a suicide mission then you either submerge to periscope depth and torpedo them or set your speed to 2 knots silent running and try to creep past them. Never attempt to pass them by on the surface. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-30-07, 09:18 AM	#3
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Best strategy: Stay away from shallow water! __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

03-30-07, 09:26 AM	#4
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	yup if its shallow dont even go there u will be dead, u need about 250m water under you, then if you still wanna do it make sure its night and the weather is bad i.e storm. go as deep as poss (i assume its either a VII sub??) about 200m should do it with 2knts silent running, you should make it. i doubt however the water is that deep and you say the weather is good? i assume this means light winds and calm water? if so forget it their sonar is much better in this kind of weather. __________________

03-30-07, 09:48 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Exactly which harbour are you approaching and what version of the game are you playing ? :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-30-07, 09:37 AM	#5
cardician Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 115 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	LOL. From these responses, this will be quite funny to most of you. Actually its December of '39 and I'm in a IIA with only 3 fish left. So you're saying this is a bad idea? I'm not so much trying to get into the harbor or whatever this torpedo base is, as specifically take out these two DDs. I thougth U-boats were great at surfaced night attacks. No? C'mon...this can't be that bad of an idea

03-30-07, 09:51 AM	#8
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Once a U-boat reveals its presence, it is a vulnerable steel tube. You need room to escape. There is no room in shallow water, so you are simply hero material like a dead duck. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

03-30-07, 09:59 AM	#9
Gedscho Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	if you go faster than minimum speed (slow speed ahead?) they will be able to hear you, even without sonar pinging you. (i play with noise metre, since i had no kriegsmarine training- heck im glad about that btw) i tried to run the street of dover at the beginning of the war, several times. once the dd spots you in shallow water, i think the ONLY way of evading them is to maneuver yourself around til you get an opportunity to sink it. correct me if im wrong, please.