submarine wars impact on environment

raduz · 03-09-07, 02:59 AM

maybe off topic, but have you ever think how many sea animals died during a single DC attack? my grand father told me that during WW2, he was in the mountains with his friends, and as they were hungry and they had no fishing rod, they threw a grenade to the river. (they were soldiers). after the explosion, plenty of dead fishes appeared on the surface...

so if one small grenade caused death to so many animals, what impact had thousands of DC? or a single sunk tanker?

IRONxMortlock · 03-09-07, 03:01 AM

Not only this but think about the sheer amount of oil which was spilt into the seas!
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raduz · 03-09-07, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock

Not only this but think about the sheer amount of oil which was spilt into the seas!

that s what I meant by "a single sunk tanker"

Dantenoc · 03-09-07, 03:42 AM

The stories of all those dead fish washing up on the shore during D-Day come to mind.

Torplexed · 03-09-07, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock

Not only this but think about the sheer amount of oil which was spilt into the seas!

A very large tanker in WW2 was about 15,000 gross registered tons. Most were around 8,000 tons. The Exxon Valdez was 110,831 grt. The really big supertankers are up to 240,000 tons displacement. You'd have to sink a lot of full-up tankers (not sailing in ballast) in WW2 to create the devastation of one supertanker sinking today. I'm not saying it didn't have an impact, but the effects were'nt nearly as concentrated as they would be in the postwar future.

Corsair · 03-09-07, 08:18 AM

Listening to a few DDs dropping cans at a safe distance from my sub, I sure think they are killing a lot of fish... The sea birds will have a hell of a good time after that when things quiet down...

raduz · 03-09-07, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Corsair

Listening to a few DDs dropping cans at a safe distance from my sub, I sure think they are killing a lot of fish... The sea birds will have a hell of a good time after that when things quiet down...

how cynical!

Corsair · 03-09-07, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Corsair

Listening to a few DDs dropping cans at a safe distance from my sub, I sure think they are killing a lot of fish... The sea birds will have a hell of a good time after that when things quiet down...

how cynical!

Just trying to see the positive side of things...

kiwi_2005 · 03-10-07, 06:18 PM

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Listening to a few DDs dropping cans at a safe distance from my sub, I sure think they are killing a lot of fish... The sea birds will have a hell of a good time after that when things quiet down...

Yeah plus the seagulls use to have a feast on dead sailors, i read in a book once a biography of a uboat crew coming alongside a inflatable they found floating around in the middle of the atlantic, inside were three sailors and two hanging on outside all stiff and sitting up straight & the two outside were just bobing up and down like corks all dead of course, each one had his eyes missing. Seagulls said the kapitan, probably plucked them out when they were too weak to fight back.

Save mankind, kill a seagull!

leeclose · 03-10-07, 06:27 PM

The RN has a nickname for seagulls(**** hawks) cause they will eat any ole ****

Kingswat · 03-09-07, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock

Not only this but think about the sheer amount of oil which was spilt into the seas!

well, the "oil hurts stuff" attitude is just a conspiracy by the people that hug trees to get us to stop using oil.

Foghladh_mhara · 03-09-07, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock

Not only this but think about the sheer amount of oil which was spilt into the seas!

well, the "oil hurts stuff" attitude is just a conspiracy by the people that hug trees to get us to stop using oil.

Yeah, damned tree huggers. They're prob behind that 'smoking is bad for you' crap as well just so we wont hurt the tobacco plants

AVGWarhawk · 03-09-07, 12:04 PM

Many a whale was tracked and DC'd

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What's in that uboat somewhere of Norway......mercury I think!?!?. It is leaking now and creating a mess.

Kpt. Kozloff · 03-09-07, 12:26 PM

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What's in that uboat somewhere of Norway......mercury I think!?!?. It is leaking now and creating a mess.

Correct. 5th Dec 1944, British sub Venturer torpedoed U-864, wich sunk with 73 men and 1857 canisters of mercury as well as jet-plane parts, destined for Japan.

Zero Niner · 03-09-07, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by raduz

maybe off topic, but have you ever think how many sea animals died during a single DC attack? my grand father told me that during WW2, he was in the mountains with his friends, and as they were hungry and they had no fishing rod, they threw a grenade to the river. (they were soldiers). after the explosion, plenty of dead fishes appeared on the surface...

so if one small grenade caused death to so many animals, what impact had thousands of DC? or a single sunk tanker?

Then again, the sound of high speed screws & sonar pings might've scared the fish away...

03-09-07, 02:59 AM	#1
raduz Engineer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Slovakia Posts: 205 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	submarine wars impact on environment maybe off topic, but have you ever think how many sea animals died during a single DC attack? my grand father told me that during WW2, he was in the mountains with his friends, and as they were hungry and they had no fishing rod, they threw a grenade to the river. (they were soldiers). after the explosion, plenty of dead fishes appeared on the surface... so if one small grenade caused death to so many animals, what impact had thousands of DC? or a single sunk tanker?

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IRONxMortlock Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 340 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Not only this but think about the sheer amount of oil which was spilt into the seas! ________ CALIFORNIA MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY Last edited by IRONxMortlock; 08-14-11 at 02:58 PM.

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Dantenoc Captain Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ensenada, B.C., Mexico Posts: 504 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The stories of all those dead fish washing up on the shore during D-Day come to mind. __________________ Going to U-boot school : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=88922 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=90234 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=88961 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=97682

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,294 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Many a whale was tracked and DC'd. What's in that uboat somewhere of Norway......mercury I think!?!?. It is leaking now and creating a mess. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road