2 short questions from the new guy

Khourieat · 02-09-07, 11:45 AM

Woot, my first post!

Hello

I just started playing this game recently and it has really grown into me, it seems slow but that just makes it more gratifying to finally sink something (that isn't yourself...)

Anyway, #1 - I tried using my AA gun on patrol #2 I think, but my crew wouldn't man the gun due to "storm", the NO though said the skyes were clear, there was no fog, and wind was at 7 m/s. What's the threshold for when they won't man the deck guns anymore? (I'm assuming any kind of rain/fog will make the panzies say "nope, we can't man the guns right now, due to storm"...the panzies!!). In a later patrol when the wind was 5 m/s I found out the AA won't finish off a C2 anyway

#2 - What's the purpose of transfering flotilas? I'm on the 1st flotila, and I just "bought" a type vii uboat I believe (finally, more then 5 torpedoes!!), what would transfering around do? Do missions change for different flotilas? (Like from "patrol this area" to "go hunt this specific target" or something?)

Oh! Also, read the entire humorous picture thread, it's hysterical!

Mooncatt · 02-09-07, 11:50 AM

hi and welcome .

yes the deckgun threshold i think is 7mps so they will not fire it.

the purpose of transfering is so you can get better uboats later in the war, also you will be sent to different locations if you change flotilla

Khourieat · 02-09-07, 11:54 AM

So are ther especific ones I should aim for? Or just the act of transfering will make better uboat options show up?

I was just getting used to getting close enough to the port to dock at it, without crashing into it

Abd_von_Mumit · 02-09-07, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Khourieat

Woot, my first post!

Hello

As-salam alaykum, Khourieat!

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Originally Posted by Khourieat

Anyway, #1 - I tried using my AA gun on patrol #2 I think, but my crew wouldn't man the gun due to "storm", the NO though said the skyes were clear, there was no fog, and wind was at 7 m/s. What's the threshold for when they won't man the deck guns anymore? (I'm assuming any kind of rain/fog will make the panzies say "nope, we can't man the guns right now, due to storm"...the panzies!!). In a later patrol when the wind was 5 m/s I found out the AA won't finish off a C2 anyway

As far as I remember, wind speed 7mps or more makes the guns unusable in the stock game. In GWX (a big.... no, wait, a HUGE mod for SH3 that one must love) it's not only the wind speed, but also other factors, like rain.

My general believe is - when you have a chance to sink a single ship with your deck gun per patrol, you are a lucky guy. I had several patrols with no possibility to use it once. Stick on your torpedoes as a primary weapon.

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#2 - What's the purpose of transfering flotilas? I'm on the 1st flotila, and I just "bought" a type vii uboat I believe (finally, more then 5 torpedoes!!), what would transfering around do? Do missions change for different flotilas? (Like from "patrol this area" to "go hunt this specific target" or something?)

The only purpose I see is some variation. Read in manual about the flotillas - they are placed in different bases, so you'll be sent to different regions of the world depending on the flotilla. There are also differences regarding the boat types you can choose. But as long as you have your type VII boat you won't need to be transfered if you're ok with your assigned grids and if you don't want to 'buy' a type IX boat (that won't be cheap, by the way).

Try GWX or any other big modes after you play at least a few patrols with the stock game. They are really unbelievable (see the stickies for them).

Khourieat · 02-09-07, 12:00 PM

Hmmmmm will do! I haven't had a chance to play with the VII yet, but I'm really looking forward to sinking for then 3 ships on a patrol

Thanks for the help!! I'll remember to put the guns to use whenever possible then (didn't realize it was so rare!)

The Munster · 02-09-07, 12:06 PM

Hi and welcome, if you don't like bumping into things when you return, you can finish the Patrol within 25 km from Port. You press Esc and then choose 'Dock at .....'

_Seth_ · 02-09-07, 12:14 PM

Hi matey, and welcome to Subsim!!

Brag · 02-09-07, 01:01 PM

Welcome to this den of murdering predators. When the French Atlantic ports become available, transfer to France. If nothing else for the food and wine. Never mind Madame la Marquise and her girls.

And there is no better pleasure than returning to port manually after a tough patrol. I always have docking drink while maneuvering my boat up to the quay.

mookiemookie · 02-09-07, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Khourieat

Hmmmmm will do! I haven't had a chance to play with the VII yet, but I'm really looking forward to sinking for then 3 ships on a patrol

Thanks for the help!! I'll remember to put the guns to use whenever possible then (didn't realize it was so rare!)

Just wait until 1942 when the merchants start shooting back.

Abd_von_Mumit · 02-09-07, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

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Originally Posted by Khourieat

Hmmmmm will do! I haven't had a chance to play with the VII yet, but I'm really looking forward to sinking for then 3 ships on a patrol

Thanks for the help!! I'll remember to put the guns to use whenever possible then (didn't realize it was so rare!)

Just wait until 1942 when the merchants start shooting back.

I was shot back by a merchant as early as in October '40. But only once.

Khourieat · 02-10-07, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Khourieat

Just wait until 1942 when the merchants start shooting back.

I'm having issues just finding the merchants...are there any areas where I'll find one in the AN grid? I just got sent to AN48 and after 3 weeks or searching I've found all of TWO enemy ships, and the C2 took 3 hits to go down (when did they add armor?!?)

I'm not looking for like a super convoy or anything, but knowing if there is a grid in the AN set I can visit to spot ANY enemy ships would be really handy

Jimbuna · 02-10-07, 09:48 AM

Hang about around 100km from the entrance to a port and you'll get to meet all the traffic coming and going

danurve · 02-09-07, 01:27 PM

Khourieat; Welcome to the forum!

Stock game settings for the stormconditions can be changed with a text editor, when I get home in a few hours I'll post the file location and the settings I use for the VIIB boat. Seems to be a good compromise and lets you use the guns in mild rain and waves.

If you haven't make sure you get the 1.4 patch for the game. I also recomend the other mods in my sig, especially the dials.

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Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Welcome to this den of murdering predators. When the French Atlantic ports become available, transfer to France. If nothing else for the food and wine. Never mind Madame la Marquise and her girls. And there is no better pleasure than returning to port manually after a tough patrol. I always have docking drink while maneuvering my boat up to the quay. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-10-07, 09:48 AM	#12
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,645 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Hang about around 100km from the entrance to a port and you'll get to meet all the traffic coming and going __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-09-07, 01:27 PM	#13
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Khourieat; Welcome to the forum! Stock game settings for the stormconditions can be changed with a text editor, when I get home in a few hours I'll post the file location and the settings I use for the VIIB boat. Seems to be a good compromise and lets you use the guns in mild rain and waves. If you haven't make sure you get the 1.4 patch for the game. I also recomend the other mods in my sig, especially the dials. __________________

02-09-07, 11:45 AM	#1
Khourieat Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 110 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	2 short questions from the new guy Woot, my first post! Hello I just started playing this game recently and it has really grown into me, it seems slow but that just makes it more gratifying to finally sink something (that isn't yourself...) Anyway, #1 - I tried using my AA gun on patrol #2 I think, but my crew wouldn't man the gun due to "storm", the NO though said the skyes were clear, there was no fog, and wind was at 7 m/s. What's the threshold for when they won't man the deck guns anymore? (I'm assuming any kind of rain/fog will make the panzies say "nope, we can't man the guns right now, due to storm"...the panzies!!). In a later patrol when the wind was 5 m/s I found out the AA won't finish off a C2 anyway #2 - What's the purpose of transfering flotilas? I'm on the 1st flotila, and I just "bought" a type vii uboat I believe (finally, more then 5 torpedoes!!), what would transfering around do? Do missions change for different flotilas? (Like from "patrol this area" to "go hunt this specific target" or something?) Oh! Also, read the entire humorous picture thread, it's hysterical!

02-09-07, 11:50 AM	#2
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	hi and welcome . yes the deckgun threshold i think is 7mps so they will not fire it. the purpose of transfering is so you can get better uboats later in the war, also you will be sent to different locations if you change flotilla __________________

02-09-07, 11:54 AM	#3
Khourieat Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 110 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So are ther especific ones I should aim for? Or just the act of transfering will make better uboat options show up? I was just getting used to getting close enough to the port to dock at it, without crashing into it

02-09-07, 12:00 PM	#5
Khourieat Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 110 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hmmmmm will do! I haven't had a chance to play with the VII yet, but I'm really looking forward to sinking for then 3 ships on a patrol Thanks for the help!! I'll remember to put the guns to use whenever possible then (didn't realize it was so rare!)