Pacific environment 4 RELEASED - Page 42

DrBeast · 09-26-08, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laivasse

As I think someone else may have mentioned, it changes the way the camera works in the sub interiors so that mouse sensitivity is greatly reduced and I get various 'Camera out of sectors' errors if I click on certain things, eg. the helmsman. On the bright side it enables me to navigate inside the interiors which was fun, but doesn't really balance up the break in immersion from the glitches. I found out I can use the stock camera, though, so no huge problem.

Welcome aboard, for starters!

Which version of Ship Caustics did you install? For Stock or for TM? Try installing the version for TM, even if you don't use that mod, I think that'll eliminate the Camera Out Of Sectors mishap.

abclkhan · 09-26-08, 10:17 AM

PLEASE HOW DO I SOLVE THIS:

MODS:
#1 PE4 Install main
RFB_v1.51_062308
RSRDC_RFBv15_V395_RC5
#4 PE4 Ship_debris_SH4_with bodies
PE4_low quality bow wave and stern wakes (more FPS)

Thank you !!

Wilcke · 09-26-08, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abclkhan

PLEASE HOW DO I SOLVE THIS:

MODS:
#1 PE4 Install main
RFB_v1.51_062308
RSRDC_RFBv15_V395_RC5
#4 PE4 Ship_debris_SH4_with bodies
PE4_low quality bow wave and stern wakes (more FPS)

Thank you !!

Oh, I have done that before. Try unloading all the PE4 modlets. Run your install as is and then see if the stars are OK. If they are OK, then install your PE4 modlets first then add RFB and RSRDC. Its been a while since I ran into this problem so bear with me and someone else will come along with a better fix I am sure.

Happy Hunting!

swdw · 09-26-08, 09:40 PM

After some looking while working on a mod, here are some things for kriller and users.

1. Pixelated reflections. If you watch very closely, you'll see the reflections isn't so much pixelated as the "ridges" match the wave motion, and move with the motion.

2. There is an issue with the reflections in fairly calm water when looking through the scope. The reflections have a zigzag look which follows the wave patterns.

The issues above are due to the reflectivity of the water being set so high in the mod. Reducing the reflectivity solves these problems but causes many others. This is because the entire environment is developed as a integrated whole. The color schemes, textures, etc all work together. Changing one piece means making changes to others. Guess how I know:hmm:

Purple water- Looking good now, but previously, all the water had a purplish cast. After doing what I mentioned in the following link, it relieved the purple ocean look
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...138663&page=28 (start at post 551)

Next thing that helps is to color calibrate your monitor
http://bryce-alive.net/calibrate/

Kriller has mentioned that he and Nisgeis have calibrated their monitors.

If you want to get fancy, you can buy a device that mounts on your screen and automatically calibrates it for you ( a cheap one is $110

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Task Force · 09-26-08, 09:44 PM

I have my mods installed like this.
1 RFB 1.5
2 RSDS V1.5 for RFB
3 RFB patch
4 PE 4 with all the great mods that come with it (high quality bow and stern wakes)
5 ROW sound effects

And am haveing no issues with them.

LukeFF · 09-27-08, 02:42 AM

kriller and Nisgeis:

I'm not certain if this issue is related to PE4, but I've never seen it before with either PE3 or 4 installed: the crewmen inside the boat have their eyeballs positioned correctly inside their head, but the bridge and AA/deck gun crewmen have their eyeballs now set farther back than they should be inside their head. I checked to see if this issue shows up in stock, and it does not. I noticed a file or two dealing with the eyeballs that PE4 modified, so maybe it has something to do with it.

Nisgeis · 09-27-08, 05:48 AM

I have problems with dodgy eyes in stock. It looks like their eyes are too far back in their heads and they also appear to be cross eyed. This affects crewman both inside and outside the sub.

The files you mention that have been changed for eyes - are they the eyeball pixel and vertex shaders? If so, they only deal with the texture and lighting of the eyes, not their actual 3D position.

As far as I can tell, the eyes are set by the engine to look at the current position of the camera, so the crewmen's eyes always look at you when they address you with responses or orders. Unfortunately this makes them look like they think I'm going to steal their lunch, as they are always looking sideways at me out of the corner of their eyes.

The only thing I can think is making it go wrong is somehow the position of the camera isn't being passed properly to the part that makes the eyes point in the right direction. This may make them go beyond their limits and make them draw inside the skull. What the part that passes the info is, or even if the theory is correct I don't know, but someone said they noticed it had something to do with save/loads in some situations. Someone else said it was to do with the copy protection.

Fish40 · 09-28-08, 03:54 AM

[quote by SWDW]: Next thing that helps is to color calibrate your monitor
http://bryce-alive.net/calibrate/

You aren't kidding!I tried this, and couldn't believe how off my screen was

. After makeing some adjustments with contrast, and color hues, it's like my 21" Trinitron CRT (this thing is a beast) is a new monitor! And this thing is old!

Thanks for the info.

kylania · 09-28-08, 09:14 AM

I had the huge stars thing once. Lasted throughout the current patrol and went away afterwards. Very odd. No idea on a "real" fix or cause though.

DrBeast · 09-28-08, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abclkhan

PLEASE HOW DO I SOLVE THIS:

*snip!*

MODS:
#1 PE4 Install main
RFB_v1.51_062308
RSRDC_RFBv15_V395_RC5
#4 PE4 Ship_debris_SH4_with bodies
PE4_low quality bow wave and stern wakes (more FPS)

Thank you !!

Easy: do not press Ctrl+N

That's what triggers this weirdness. Stay clear of that key combination and you'll never see those Christmas stars again

Egon01 · 09-28-08, 01:34 PM

I have strange bug from time to time. The ocean starts behave like very fast river. Textures move very fast. It happenes when I use time acceleration and than I change it to normal. Game restart didn't help, I had to start mission again. Another strange issue is that ocean textures starts shaking, it looks like I sail on "jelly". Any fixes on these issues ?

My mods:
PE4
RFB 1.5
RSRD

I have 8800gt card, use 169.21 drivers but I checked with other drivers and it happenes too.

Cheers

DrBeast · 09-29-08, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egon01

I have strange bug from time to time. The ocean starts behave like very fast river. Textures move very fast. It happenes when I use time acceleration and than I change it to normal. Game restart didn't help, I had to start mission again. Another strange issue is that ocean textures starts shaking, it looks like I sail on "jelly". Any fixes on these issues ?

My mods:
PE4
RFB 1.5
RSRD

I have 8800gt card, use 169.21 drivers but I checked with other drivers and it happenes too.

Cheers

Don't use time acceleration over x1024. Usually, accelerating the game and then pausing it a few times solves the jelly-like shaking.

Egon01 · 09-29-08, 11:16 AM

Ok and what about river effect ? I shouldn't use time acceleration over x1024 too ? If this is true sailing from Pearl to japanesse coasts will take agaes

Lexandro · 09-29-08, 04:01 PM

I really like the look of this mod overall. The work is fantastic, its obvious a huge amount of effort has gone in to it. There is a but though. I hate to criticise such great work but for me the water is like sailing in paint. Its not transparant enough, sad to say. Everything else about the mod is perfect, I just really dont like lack of transparancy with the water.

Huge thumbs up for everything else though in my book, keep up the great work!

Fish40 · 09-29-08, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lexandro

I really like the look of this mod overall. The work is fantastic, its obvious a huge amount of effort has gone in to it. There is a but though. I hate to criticise such great work but for me the water is like sailing in paint. Its not transparant enough, sad to say. Everything else about the mod is perfect, I just really dont like lack of transparancy with the water.

Huge thumbs up for everything else though in my book, keep up the great work!

Welcome aboard! Do you have the "Environmental Effects" option ticked in the graphics option? I remember someone saying the same thing about lack of water transparancy, but gained it by ticking this option.

My only complaint, and I don't think it's because of this mod, but rather something I noticed and commented on from day one of this sim. That is the overall washed out, hazey look of the images as compared to the clear, crisp graphics of SH3. I'm not sure if this is the so called "grainey" look to give the sim a "period" appearance, but I don't care for it. Other then that, I love everything about it.

09-26-08, 09:40 PM	#619
swdw Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 921 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	After some looking while working on a mod, here are some things for kriller and users. 1. Pixelated reflections. If you watch very closely, you'll see the reflections isn't so much pixelated as the "ridges" match the wave motion, and move with the motion. 2. There is an issue with the reflections in fairly calm water when looking through the scope. The reflections have a zigzag look which follows the wave patterns. The issues above are due to the reflectivity of the water being set so high in the mod. Reducing the reflectivity solves these problems but causes many others. This is because the entire environment is developed as a integrated whole. The color schemes, textures, etc all work together. Changing one piece means making changes to others. Guess how I know:hmm: Purple water- Looking good now, but previously, all the water had a purplish cast. After doing what I mentioned in the following link, it relieved the purple ocean look http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...138663&page=28 (start at post 551) Next thing that helps is to color calibrate your monitor http://bryce-alive.net/calibrate/ Kriller has mentioned that he and Nisgeis have calibrated their monitors. If you want to get fancy, you can buy a device that mounts on your screen and automatically calibrates it for you ( a cheap one is $110 ) __________________ "There are only two types of ships- submarines...... and targets" Unknown "you wouldn't catch me on a ship that deliberately sinks itself"- comment to me from a surface sailor. System: AMD 6300 3.5 GHz \| 32GB DDR3 \| SATA 300 320GB HD, SATA III 1TB HD, SATA III 1.TB HD \| ASUS Sonar DS sound card NVIDIA 1660 Super OC \| Windows 10 Last edited by swdw; 09-26-08 at 10:05 PM.

09-26-08, 09:44 PM	#620
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I have my mods installed like this. 1 RFB 1.5 2 RSDS V1.5 for RFB 3 RFB patch 4 PE 4 with all the great mods that come with it (high quality bow and stern wakes) 5 ROW sound effects And am haveing no issues with them. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-27-08, 02:42 AM	#621
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	kriller and Nisgeis: I'm not certain if this issue is related to PE4, but I've never seen it before with either PE3 or 4 installed: the crewmen inside the boat have their eyeballs positioned correctly inside their head, but the bridge and AA/deck gun crewmen have their eyeballs now set farther back than they should be inside their head. I checked to see if this issue shows up in stock, and it does not. I noticed a file or two dealing with the eyeballs that PE4 modified, so maybe it has something to do with it. __________________ ROW Sound Effects Contributor RFB Team Leader

09-27-08, 05:48 AM	#622
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	I have problems with dodgy eyes in stock. It looks like their eyes are too far back in their heads and they also appear to be cross eyed. This affects crewman both inside and outside the sub. The files you mention that have been changed for eyes - are they the eyeball pixel and vertex shaders? If so, they only deal with the texture and lighting of the eyes, not their actual 3D position. As far as I can tell, the eyes are set by the engine to look at the current position of the camera, so the crewmen's eyes always look at you when they address you with responses or orders. Unfortunately this makes them look like they think I'm going to steal their lunch, as they are always looking sideways at me out of the corner of their eyes. The only thing I can think is making it go wrong is somehow the position of the camera isn't being passed properly to the part that makes the eyes point in the right direction. This may make them go beyond their limits and make them draw inside the skull. What the part that passes the info is, or even if the theory is correct I don't know, but someone said they noticed it had something to do with save/loads in some situations. Someone else said it was to do with the copy protection. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

09-28-08, 03:54 AM	#623
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	[quote by SWDW]: Next thing that helps is to color calibrate your monitor http://bryce-alive.net/calibrate/ You aren't kidding!I tried this, and couldn't believe how off my screen was. After makeing some adjustments with contrast, and color hues, it's like my 21" Trinitron CRT (this thing is a beast) is a new monitor! And this thing is old! Thanks for the info.

09-26-08, 10:17 AM	#617
abclkhan Loader Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 87 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	PLEASE HOW DO I SOLVE THIS: MODS: #1 PE4 Install main RFB_v1.51_062308 RSRDC_RFBv15_V395_RC5 #4 PE4 Ship_debris_SH4_with bodies PE4_low quality bow wave and stern wakes (more FPS) Thank you !!

09-28-08, 09:14 AM	#624
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	I had the huge stars thing once. Lasted throughout the current patrol and went away afterwards. Very odd. No idea on a "real" fix or cause though. __________________

09-28-08, 01:34 PM	#626
Egon01 Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 101 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I have strange bug from time to time. The ocean starts behave like very fast river. Textures move very fast. It happenes when I use time acceleration and than I change it to normal. Game restart didn't help, I had to start mission again. Another strange issue is that ocean textures starts shaking, it looks like I sail on "jelly". Any fixes on these issues ? My mods: PE4 RFB 1.5 RSRD I have 8800gt card, use 169.21 drivers but I checked with other drivers and it happenes too. Cheers

09-29-08, 11:16 AM	#628
Egon01 Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 101 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Ok and what about river effect ? I shouldn't use time acceleration over x1024 too ? If this is true sailing from Pearl to japanesse coasts will take agaes

09-29-08, 04:01 PM	#629
Lexandro Navy Dude Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: REDACTED Posts: 172 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	I really like the look of this mod overall. The work is fantastic, its obvious a huge amount of effort has gone in to it. There is a but though. I hate to criticise such great work but for me the water is like sailing in paint. Its not transparant enough, sad to say. Everything else about the mod is perfect, I just really dont like lack of transparancy with the water. Huge thumbs up for everything else though in my book, keep up the great work!