[REL] Depth charge water disturbances - Page 4

LGN1 · 03-21-11, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stiebler

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Also, the whole point of the Hedgehog-discharged bombs (not depthcharges) was that they exploded only on contact with a U-boat (this is wrongly modelled in SH3), so there was never *any* disturbance in the water if they missed their target.
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Stiebler.

@Stiebler:
I looked at the hedgehogs in-game and it looks to me as if they are modeled correctly

They just sink and if they don't hit anything, they vanish at a certain depth. No explosion without contact

I guess in this case there is also no bold-effect from TDW.

@TDW:
This is really a great mod, TDW! I just played around with the noise setting and it seems that you can really make the escorts deaf. They can't hear your sub! As I mentioned earlier, it would be great to have two bolds, one for simulating the noise aspect and one for the ASDIC part. Then it would be perfect. Thanks again for your efforts!

Cheers, LGN1

rik007 · 03-23-11, 11:07 PM

I never knew that you can add files to this game. The dsd-file is called "TDW_DC_Water_Disturbance_v1_0_SH3.dsd" so it doesnot overwrite an existing one. But how is it then picked up by the game?

SquareSteelBar · 03-24-11, 05:45 AM

The 'Library' folder is the game's feeding bowl - it can't resist to eat anything found therein...

MoN · 03-24-11, 08:51 AM

It seems to me this causes destroyers to dc their own dcs, especially if there is more than one destroyer. Watched two destroyers take turns on nothing until they ran out of dcs yesterday. I was kilometers away. This seems to happen a lot.

TheDarkWraith · 03-24-11, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MoN

It seems to me this causes destroyers to dc their own dcs, especially if there is more than one destroyer. Watched two destroyers take turns on nothing until they ran out of dcs yesterday. I was kilometers away. This seems to happen a lot.

Which is the point isn't it? You escaped. You can adjust the mod and tweak it to taste.

Hitman · 03-24-11, 11:06 AM

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It seems to me this causes destroyers to dc their own dcs, especially if there is more than one destroyer. Watched two destroyers take turns on nothing until they ran out of dcs yesterday. I was kilometers away. This seems to happen a lot.

This is not completely irrealistic. In fact the late war BOLD devices were designed to produce false echoes under water, and the disturbance created by DCs could probably do something similar, while also DDs frequently depthcharged around the last known Uboat positions even if not getting return echoes due to the disturbances, for additional increase of probabilities of a kill.

Wreford-Brown · 03-24-11, 04:26 PM

This is a very nice mod TDW. It gives a more realistic chance of breaking contact with destroyers and cooperative tactics towards the end of the war will go a way towards negating the advantages this mod gives you.

Another giant leap on the road to realism.

Salvadoreno · 03-24-11, 06:08 PM

conflicts? With nygm or gwx3?

Wreford-Brown · 03-25-11, 03:05 AM

I've found no conflicts with GWX

Stiebler · 03-25-11, 04:11 AM

No conflicts with NYGM.

There is no theoretical reason why there should be a conflict with any of the super-mods.

Stiebler.

fitzcarraldo · 03-25-11, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

I've found no conflicts with GWX

...And no conflicts in LSH3, also all OK in GWX (heavily modded).

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

TheDarkWraith · 03-25-11, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Salvadoreno

conflicts? With nygm or gwx3?

There's no reason it will conflict with anything unless there are identical IDs (which would be almost impossible as I have my own ID numbering system). The way I've made it work is by hooking effects which can't interfere with anything.

Reece · 03-25-11, 08:58 PM

Thanks TDW, a good one for SHIII!

King_Zog · 03-25-11, 11:59 PM

Damn, so without this mod everytime I've waited for the depth charges to explode before going to flank speed and hard rudder it has been completely pointless!? Oh well, downloading now, thanks for making this DarkWraith!

ryanwigginton · 03-26-11, 01:19 AM

Me also. I read about this tactic here on the forum, maybe two years ago and did it ever since, never realising it weren't actually modelled.

Have also been doing it in SH4. Stupid! Great mod, now there's actually a reason to do it.

03-24-11, 04:26 PM	#52
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	This is a very nice mod TDW. It gives a more realistic chance of breaking contact with destroyers and cooperative tactics towards the end of the war will go a way towards negating the advantages this mod gives you. Another giant leap on the road to realism. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

03-24-11, 06:08 PM	#53
Salvadoreno Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	conflicts? With nygm or gwx3? __________________

03-25-11, 03:05 AM	#54
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	I've found no conflicts with GWX __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

03-25-11, 04:11 AM	#55
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	No conflicts with NYGM. There is no theoretical reason why there should be a conflict with any of the super-mods. Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience!

03-25-11, 08:58 PM	#58
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,731 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Thanks TDW, a good one for SHIII! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

03-23-11, 11:07 PM	#47
rik007 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 785 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	I never knew that you can add files to this game. The dsd-file is called "TDW_DC_Water_Disturbance_v1_0_SH3.dsd" so it doesnot overwrite an existing one. But how is it then picked up by the game?

03-24-11, 05:45 AM	#48
SquareSteelBar Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: U-73 Posts: 1,638 Downloads: 632 Uploads: 0	The 'Library' folder is the game's feeding bowl - it can't resist to eat anything found therein...

03-24-11, 08:51 AM	#49
MoN Seaman Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 38 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	It seems to me this causes destroyers to dc their own dcs, especially if there is more than one destroyer. Watched two destroyers take turns on nothing until they ran out of dcs yesterday. I was kilometers away. This seems to happen a lot.

03-25-11, 11:59 PM	#59
King_Zog Soundman Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London Posts: 143 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Damn, so without this mod everytime I've waited for the depth charges to explode before going to flank speed and hard rudder it has been completely pointless!? Oh well, downloading now, thanks for making this DarkWraith!

03-26-11, 01:19 AM	#60
ryanwigginton Weps Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 368 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Me also. I read about this tactic here on the forum, maybe two years ago and did it ever since, never realising it weren't actually modelled. Have also been doing it in SH4. Stupid! Great mod, now there's actually a reason to do it. __________________ Windows 8 Pro 64-bit, Intel Core i7-2760QM @ 2.40GHz, 8GB RAM, AMD Radeon HD 6990M