Realism- and gameplay-related hardcode fixes for SH3.EXE - Page 132

frau kaleun · 08-18-11, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzcarraldo

With V15G2 patch OK, now I want to try the Surrender Patch. What is the compatible version for V15G2?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186354

SquareSteelBar · 08-18-11, 07:15 AM

Sometimes I ask myself: how do some kaleuns manage to detect enemy ships...?

Stiebler · 08-18-11, 08:47 AM

I have received fresh information from my friend, a former U-boat officer, concerning use of compressed oxygen.

This link contains the original information, and subsequently the new information:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=185993

Unfortunately, it appears that no one really knows the answer today, despite my friend's searches in Germany. However, he is clear that - under normal circumstances - it was depletion of U-boat batteries that caused the U-boats to surface, not depletion of oxygen.

Stiebler.

Robin40 · 08-19-11, 02:42 PM

I started a new career with V15G2

However I get a CTD...no problem with V15G1

My mod list

GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
GWX - Main movie - 'Das Boot'
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Open Hatch Mod
LifeBoats&Debris_v2_A
WideScreen_SH3_V1
Loading Screens Mod 2
MFM-Interim-Beta
MFMBeta-EnglishNames
MFM-EnglishNames
SH3MoonMod
USS_LongIsland
OLC's Modified Searchlight Beams for GWX3
OKW_Funkmod_v_1_2
EAX_Sound_Sim_SH3
SH3_oggvorbis3
Hitler Speaks
M.E.P v3
M.E.P v3-Patch
MEP v3 VisualSensors for gwx3
SH-5 Water for GWX 3.0 V0.9 20 Km Atlantic campaign (default)
Damage_caused_by_fires_TheDarkWraith
Aces' Crew On Deck - Stand alone mod v1 GWX Version
GWX-SmartKeys
Rbs1_SH4_Effects_GWX_30_71
Rbs10-enhancedoilexplosion
Rbs2-Forsoundsandstarshells
O2-Gauges v2
Bad Weather Fix V1.1 (FORTE)
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19390901
MFM-v3-Neutral-Skins-1940
Supplement to V15G2(JSGME)

fitzcarraldo · 08-19-11, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186354

Danke, Frau Kaleun

I´m testing the V15G2 plus the Surrender Patch for V15G2, and all seems work fine.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

h.sie · 08-20-11, 05:03 AM

@Robin: Long Mod-List. There is no other chance than to disable all MODS and see if there still occurs a CTD. Then, enable them one-by-one and see which MOD causes the problem. Also, sometimes a fresh sh3 install could help.

Last week, in a german forum there also were 2 reports of CTD in conjunction with my patches. But: In both cases, a corrupted sh3-installation was the reason (Frequently enabling / disabling a high number of MODs raises the chance for some old files remaining corrupting the sh3-installation). I have to re-install my sh3 every month because of that.

You could also send me a screenshot of the CTD - window which shows the contents of the CPU registers at CTD moment, which directly leads me to the code that is responsible for the CTD.

Robin40 · 08-20-11, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

@Robin: Long Mod-List. There is no other chance than to disable all MODS and see if there still occurs a CTD. Then, enable them one-by-one and see which MOD causes the problem. Also, sometimes a fresh sh3 install could help.

Last week, in a german forum there also were 2 reports of CTD in conjunction with my patches. But: In both cases, a corrupted sh3-installation was the reason (Frequently enabling / disabling a high number of MODs raises the chance for some old files remaining corrupting the sh3-installation). I have to re-install my sh3 every 2 months because of that.

You could also send me a screenshot of the CTD - window which shows the contents of the CPU registers at CTD moment, which directly leads me to the code that is responsible for the CTD.

thx mate....it is strange that V15G1 runs fine

h.sie · 08-20-11, 06:24 AM

My tip for quick and clean installation.

1) Install clean Sh3

2) Install Supermod of your choice. Don't install any further MODs.

3) Compress the whole installation into one Archive (I recommend 7zip) and save that archive somewhere on your HDD.

Done.

For a clean re-install you simply need to delete the old install and extract the archive you've created in 3) above into the installation folder. That's it. That's what I do approx. every month, since I fiddle around a lot with installing / deinstalling MODS.

Note: Use this information on your own risk.

fitzcarraldo · 08-20-11, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

My tip for quick and clean installation.

1) Install clean Sh3

2) Install Supermod of your choice. Don't install any further MODs.

3) Compress the whole installation into one Archive (I recommend 7zip) and save that archive somewhere on your HDD.

Done.

For a clean re-install you simply need to delete the old install and extract the archive you've created in 3) above into the installation folder. That's it. That's what I do approx. every month, since I fiddle around a lot with installing / deinstalling MODS.

Note: Use this information on your own risk.

Yes, and also you can have several installations with MultiSH3 (I have three installations: GWX, WAC and LSH3).

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

Fish In The Water · 08-20-11, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

My tip for quick and clean installation.

Great idea. Would save a lot of time and trouble...

flakmonkey · 08-24-11, 10:18 PM

Hmm, just sank hms rodney, proudly radioed in my sucess to bdu and got the message "dont sink neutral ships you amateur!". For some reason i always seem to get this msg after my first status report... Any ideas.

+ any chance of adding a keyboard command to switch to red light, others have tried but its my understanding that it was a hardcoded feature so no progress was ever made.

h.sie · 08-25-11, 02:40 AM

@flakmonkey: You seem to have V15G1, right. That was a bug and has been fixed in V15G2.

It is not easy to add new commands. Currently very busy with other fixes, sorry.

Capt. Morgan · 08-25-11, 08:41 PM

Just some feed back.

Enabling V15G2 on an existing career (while in port) ran fine, but resulted in CTD's when trying to load any save-games created after the patch had been applied.

Enabling V15G2 on a new career eliminated the CTD's on loading save-files.

Regarding the 4GB patch: I had originally posted here that using the NTCore patch, rather than the 4GB flag in the option selector seemed to produced different results. After h.sie pointed out that both methods produce files that are indistinguishable from each other, I took a more careful look and found that my problem lay in a corrupted install, and not in any bug with the patch or selector.

I've edited out my original comments in order to eliminate any further confusion on this matter.

h.sie · 08-26-11, 02:26 AM

@CaptainMorgan: Easy solution for your problem: Never load a savegame created with an older patch version. Taking care for backward-compatibility would hinder my progress and isn't really necessary, since it is reasonable for everyone to patch only before a new career.

Regarding 4GB Patch: Was the CTD reproducable? Or did it occur only once? I ask, because I made a small test:

1) I applied the 4GB-patch using Stieblers Options Selector. Saved the patched file as sh3a.exe.

2) I applied the 4GB-patch using the NTCore from your post. Saved the patched file as sh3b.exe.

Compared both files using > fc /b sh3a.exe sh3b.exe

Result: Both files were exactly the same. No difference. Everyone can reproduce this test.

Your post above suggests that Stieblers Options Selector does something wrong. The little test above proved that this cannot be applicable.

So there must be a different reason for the CTD.

If one does a certain action called ABC, and after that a CTD occurs, one cannot automatically conclude, that action ABC is the cause of the CTD. One can only make an assumption, and this assumption must be proven to be true by an empirical analysis.

I have even heard of people who have CTD on a fresh and completely unmodded sh3 install: See here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=187156

h.sie

Stiebler · 08-26-11, 10:51 AM

My additional patch-kit for H.sie's V15G2 patch, containing the 'Surrender' and 'Smoke on Horizon' mods, has now been extended to include code for the CAM-ship.

For full details, read this post:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...8&postcount=10

Stiebler.

08-18-11, 08:47 AM	#1968
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	Air supply in U-boats (again) I have received fresh information from my friend, a former U-boat officer, concerning use of compressed oxygen. This link contains the original information, and subsequently the new information: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=185993 Unfortunately, it appears that no one really knows the answer today, despite my friend's searches in Germany. However, he is clear that - under normal circumstances - it was depletion of U-boat batteries that caused the U-boats to surface, not depletion of oxygen. Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience! Last edited by Stiebler; 08-18-11 at 08:58 AM.

08-20-11, 05:03 AM	#1971
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@Robin: Long Mod-List. There is no other chance than to disable all MODS and see if there still occurs a CTD. Then, enable them one-by-one and see which MOD causes the problem. Also, sometimes a fresh sh3 install could help. Last week, in a german forum there also were 2 reports of CTD in conjunction with my patches. But: In both cases, a corrupted sh3-installation was the reason (Frequently enabling / disabling a high number of MODs raises the chance for some old files remaining corrupting the sh3-installation). I have to re-install my sh3 every month because of that. You could also send me a screenshot of the CTD - window which shows the contents of the CPU registers at CTD moment, which directly leads me to the code that is responsible for the CTD. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 08-20-11 at 08:59 AM.

08-20-11, 06:24 AM	#1973
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	My tip for quick and clean installation. 1) Install clean Sh3 2) Install Supermod of your choice. Don't install any further MODs. 3) Compress the whole installation into one Archive (I recommend 7zip) and save that archive somewhere on your HDD. Done. For a clean re-install you simply need to delete the old install and extract the archive you've created in 3) above into the installation folder. That's it. That's what I do approx. every month, since I fiddle around a lot with installing / deinstalling MODS. Note: Use this information on your own risk. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

08-24-11, 10:18 PM	#1976
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Hmm, just sank hms rodney, proudly radioed in my sucess to bdu and got the message "dont sink neutral ships you amateur!". For some reason i always seem to get this msg after my first status report... Any ideas. + any chance of adding a keyboard command to switch to red light, others have tried but its my understanding that it was a hardcoded feature so no progress was ever made. __________________

08-25-11, 02:40 AM	#1977
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@flakmonkey: You seem to have V15G1, right. That was a bug and has been fixed in V15G2. It is not easy to add new commands. Currently very busy with other fixes, sorry. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

08-18-11, 07:15 AM	#1967
SquareSteelBar Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: U-73 Posts: 1,638 Downloads: 632 Uploads: 0	Sometimes I ask myself: how do some kaleuns manage to detect enemy ships...?

08-19-11, 02:42 PM	#1969
Robin40 Chief Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rivoli (Italy) Posts: 310 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	I started a new career with V15G2 However I get a CTD...no problem with V15G1 My mod list GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6 GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects GWX - Integrated Orders GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas GWX - Main movie - 'Das Boot' GWX - No Medals on Crew GWX - Open Hatch Mod LifeBoats&Debris_v2_A WideScreen_SH3_V1 Loading Screens Mod 2 MFM-Interim-Beta MFMBeta-EnglishNames MFM-EnglishNames SH3MoonMod USS_LongIsland OLC's Modified Searchlight Beams for GWX3 OKW_Funkmod_v_1_2 EAX_Sound_Sim_SH3 SH3_oggvorbis3 Hitler Speaks M.E.P v3 M.E.P v3-Patch MEP v3 VisualSensors for gwx3 SH-5 Water for GWX 3.0 V0.9 20 Km Atlantic campaign (default) Damage_caused_by_fires_TheDarkWraith Aces' Crew On Deck - Stand alone mod v1 GWX Version GWX-SmartKeys Rbs1_SH4_Effects_GWX_30_71 Rbs10-enhancedoilexplosion Rbs2-Forsoundsandstarshells O2-Gauges v2 Bad Weather Fix V1.1 (FORTE) MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19390901 MFM-v3-Neutral-Skins-1940 Supplement to V15G2(JSGME)

08-25-11, 08:41 PM	#1978
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 463 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	Just some feed back. Enabling V15G2 on an existing career (while in port) ran fine, but resulted in CTD's when trying to load any save-games created after the patch had been applied. Enabling V15G2 on a new career eliminated the CTD's on loading save-files. Regarding the 4GB patch: I had originally posted here that using the NTCore patch, rather than the 4GB flag in the option selector seemed to produced different results. After h.sie pointed out that both methods produce files that are indistinguishable from each other, I took a more careful look and found that my problem lay in a corrupted install, and not in any bug with the patch or selector. I've edited out my original comments in order to eliminate any further confusion on this matter. __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey Last edited by Capt. Morgan; 08-28-11 at 02:52 PM.

08-26-11, 02:26 AM	#1979
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@CaptainMorgan: Easy solution for your problem: Never load a savegame created with an older patch version. Taking care for backward-compatibility would hinder my progress and isn't really necessary, since it is reasonable for everyone to patch only before a new career. Regarding 4GB Patch: Was the CTD reproducable? Or did it occur only once? I ask, because I made a small test: 1) I applied the 4GB-patch using Stieblers Options Selector. Saved the patched file as sh3a.exe. 2) I applied the 4GB-patch using the NTCore from your post. Saved the patched file as sh3b.exe. Compared both files using > fc /b sh3a.exe sh3b.exe Result: Both files were exactly the same. No difference. Everyone can reproduce this test. Your post above suggests that Stieblers Options Selector does something wrong. The little test above proved that this cannot be applicable. So there must be a different reason for the CTD. If one does a certain action called ABC, and after that a CTD occurs, one cannot automatically conclude, that action ABC is the cause of the CTD. One can only make an assumption, and this assumption must be proven to be true by an empirical analysis. I have even heard of people who have CTD on a fresh and completely unmodded sh3 install: See here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=187156 h.sie __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 08-26-11 at 02:50 AM.

08-26-11, 10:51 AM	#1980
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	Combined Surrender/Smoke-on-Horizon/CAM-ship patch released My additional patch-kit for H.sie's V15G2 patch, containing the 'Surrender' and 'Smoke on Horizon' mods, has now been extended to include code for the CAM-ship. For full details, read this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...8&postcount=10 Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience!