Nvidia tweaks to SH3/SH4 - Page 6

rmr1701 · 02-15-10, 01:29 PM

Well, you all may not be able to help with settings on the older gear I have, but it doesn't hurt to check.
Biggest problem at the moment is slow, jerky cursor and slow mouse click response times, jerky smoke and screen movement.

Compaq Presario SR1917CL
XP Pro Media Center SP3
AMD64 2200Mhz
1.5 Gb Ram
nVidia GeForce 6150LE built in-256mb

I'm not a computer tech, I know enough to be dangerous and this is our home PC, so if it doesn't work right, I have to deal with the wife. I don't know enough to want to go poking around too much in system files. I have installed the latest drivers I can find, but I'm not sure if it helped or not. Buying a new graphics card is just not an option right now.

Arclight · 02-15-10, 09:10 PM

It's your graphicscard, you're just experiencing low framerates.

No amount of tweaking is going to fix it, time for an upgrade.

Ships-R-Us · 02-15-10, 10:50 PM

As a last resort back off the Anisotropic Filter (AF) settings and try that, then if need be back off the other settings to see if you get some relief and better game play until another card comes your way.......

Ships-R-Us · 03-04-10, 09:34 PM

I have a GeForce 9800GTX+ running the new driver. I never tried the Nhancer program for fear it would overclock and damage the card...

If anyone wants to tell of the advantages of Nhancer over the Nvidia control panel I will be greatful.

Arclight · 03-05-10, 07:44 AM

Has a few more options, particularly for troubleshooting.

Much better explanation of what the options do.

Just a more complete controlpanel, though the average user probably has no use for it.

JoeCorrado · 06-18-10, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ships-R-Us

I have a GeForce 9800GTX+ running the new driver. I never tried the Nhancer program for fear it would overclock and damage the card...

If anyone wants to tell of the advantages of Nhancer over the Nvidia control panel I will be greatful.

Running the new drivers w/ GeForce 9600GT on 64bit Windows 7 - Using Nhancer with settings recommended in this thread as well.

No problems, no conflicts. Nhancer does not "overclock" your video card. All Nhancer does is to make the already available settings for your card assessable in one easy place AND it will apply the optimized setting for the game only when the game is loaded. Be sure to create a new profile named SH4 and set Nhancer to load that profile when the SH4 executable is started.

Hassie · 11-19-10, 01:52 PM

I have been playing this game for awhile, but recently got a new computer, which has Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. It has an i7 960@3.19GHZ 4 Core CPU, NVidia 480 GTX, SoundBlaster XI-FI XTreme Audio, 6 GB og 1800MHz RAM. Running DirectX 11, since my video card is a 480, but for some reason I am having HUGE problems with SH4 AND SH5, but NOT SH3.

Ok so SH4, the one I really care about, is a steam version, so it is in the program files x86/steam folder, and there is very little I can do about that, but that was never a problem before with my other computer.
So this is what it does, I try to run the game, steam does it's thing, and computer thinks for a second and than nothing. No black screen, just nothing. I look in Task Manager, under processes, and there right at the top is SH4, taking 350-680mb of memory running, but the only thing I can do is end the process.

I have tried many different settings, and read thru many hours of tech support on here and a few other sites, and thought I would just ask for help from hopefully, someone that has had this problem or can maybe help either way.

As for SH5, the game runs thru it's Ubisoft Launcher, I push start, and the movie starts up, but smaller than the screen, and like it's not really there. I can't click it, as I will just click whatever is behind the movie like the desktop. It is also in my processes, but not in the applications in my Task Manager, altho using far less memory for the opening movie. After the movie runs it's due course, the game stops and nothing, which almost seems like the same problem, save this one shows me the movie before failing, and SH4 just never actually comes up.

Any help would be appreciated. I am having fun with SH3, but I bought SH4 U-Boat Missions and never started it, and only did the American side, and would really love to get back into that, as it was my favorite.

Thank you in advance for any help you can offer, and if you need any more details, please let me know.

Hassie

Arclight · 11-19-10, 02:28 PM

Either move it out of program files or disable UAC for starters. Neither should be a problem.

You can try the compatibility modes too; right-click the .exe for the game and select 'disable desktop composition'. Additionally you can try 'run as administrator' to get around the 'program files'/UAC problem, and maybe set compatibility mode for OS you know the game is compatible with (I'd just try XP SP3). 'Disable visual themes' is worth a shot as well.

Hassie · 11-20-10, 07:25 AM

Arclight-

Thank you for the response. I have done several of the things you suggested and the game does absolutely nothing different. I run it as administrator from the folder, not from the steam game library page.

Unfortunately Steam links their games to a web address on your desktop icons, and if you take it out of the steam folder, and put it just in the C:\ folder, it has problems and is missing files or something. I will try using compatibility modes I havent tried, disabling visual themes, and hell even taking off...and OMG, SH5 just worked by disabling my abnormal DPI size. Wow

I appreciate the help Arc, I didnt even think to check any of the boxes below the compatibility setting, or the administrator box. Doing this on SH4 however does change what happens now...

The steam box asking if I want to play the, and showing the cd-key for the game comes up, i push play, it thinks about it for a half of a nanosecond, than pops up again. If I take off visual themes, or the DPI it does this, taking of both does the same, and leaving the boxes unchecked obviously the problem is the same as when I first reported and you responded.

I am going to try and manually switch my DPI to the normal size and see if that helps. If you have any other recommendations, or have heard of any similar problems and solutions, I would be in your debt for the help. I really wanna play SH4, and getting SH5 to work is almost a slap in the face, because of how bugged it is

Hassie

Arclight · 11-20-10, 07:45 AM

Fair enough.

If you install Steam in another directory, you'll get around the permission issues. Think you can copy (not move, copy) the whole thing to a new location, games and all, and uninstall Steam before reinstalling in the location you prepared (copied to). If you let Steam check the integrety of games after that, it will notice that the files are already there and pretty much complete instantly (might have to acquire few small files).

A thing to test is disable UAC and see if that fixes SH4. If it does and you insist on keeping that godforsaken thing on, do the above to move everything over.

Also, try disabling the Steam in-game overlay. It breaks every DX11 game I have, and recently X3 Terran Conflict started to refuse to run with it enabled as well. It wasn't exactly stable when it did run with the overlay enabled anyway.

jepo1501 · 11-22-10, 11:48 AM

Hi, Advice please............ i have a new monitor packard bell Maestro 242Dx.
I have never had any probs with SH4 but now i have this new monitor running when i try and start the game it will go as far as the first screen (to the end of the progress bar) and then the screen goes blank a message is diplayed 'no signal being received' and then the monitor switches off, so then i have close the computer down and restart.
I have tried everything i can think off and now i am getting very, very, frustrated....or is it angry!!!!!.................any help would be greatly appreciated.

ssjtoma · 03-19-15, 11:31 PM

i'm a fan of both Radeon and Nvidia Gforce!! The first PC I built back in 05' had an ATI Radeon!! To think how far these graphic cards have come from even back then!!

Metalogic · 03-20-15, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssjtoma

i'm a fan of both Radeon and Nvidia Gforce!! The first PC I built back in 05' had an ATI Radeon!! To think how far these graphic cards have come from even back then!!

I can get insanely good fps in SH3, just wondering what the best Nvidia driver 3D settings are optimal to make the game look it's best, performance is definitely not a problem, so can probably max things out. This graphics card will run games like Skyrim (with high resolution texture pack) on ultra, no problem! :-)

Harmsway! · 08-14-15, 09:20 AM

Nvidia released a new driver for Windows 10 today. 8/14/15

Magic1111 · 11-26-15, 05:27 AM

Hi Folks!

Yesterday I "play" for testing with different nVidia Inspector settings, and I forgot to save my SH3 profile.....

Now after tests I have the Sun Halo problem (Sun is a "Golf Ball"), and I don´t remember my settings before I began the tests.

Before the tests the sun was perfect!

My question is, can anybody please post the best

- SH3/SH4 Inspector and
- nVidia Control Panel

Settings, that eliminate the Sun Halo Problem?

Many thx in forward!

Best regards,
Magic

02-15-10, 01:29 PM	#1
rmr1701 Watch Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rowlett, TX Posts: 23 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Old nvidia Well, you all may not be able to help with settings on the older gear I have, but it doesn't hurt to check. Biggest problem at the moment is slow, jerky cursor and slow mouse click response times, jerky smoke and screen movement. Compaq Presario SR1917CL XP Pro Media Center SP3 AMD64 2200Mhz 1.5 Gb Ram nVidia GeForce 6150LE built in-256mb I'm not a computer tech, I know enough to be dangerous and this is our home PC, so if it doesn't work right, I have to deal with the wife. I don't know enough to want to go poking around too much in system files. I have installed the latest drivers I can find, but I'm not sure if it helped or not. Buying a new graphics card is just not an option right now.

02-15-10, 09:10 PM	#2
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	It's your graphicscard, you're just experiencing low framerates. No amount of tweaking is going to fix it, time for an upgrade. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-04-10, 09:34 PM	#4
Ships-R-Us Commander Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 452 Downloads: 134 Uploads: 0	Nhancer vs Nvidia Control Panel I have a GeForce 9800GTX+ running the new driver. I never tried the Nhancer program for fear it would overclock and damage the card... If anyone wants to tell of the advantages of Nhancer over the Nvidia control panel I will be greatful.

03-05-10, 07:44 AM	#5
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Has a few more options, particularly for troubleshooting. Much better explanation of what the options do. Just a more complete controlpanel, though the average user probably has no use for it. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

11-19-10, 01:52 PM	#7
Hassie Nub Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Game Won't Load Win7/ 480 GTX I have been playing this game for awhile, but recently got a new computer, which has Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. It has an i7 960@3.19GHZ 4 Core CPU, NVidia 480 GTX, SoundBlaster XI-FI XTreme Audio, 6 GB og 1800MHz RAM. Running DirectX 11, since my video card is a 480, but for some reason I am having HUGE problems with SH4 AND SH5, but NOT SH3. Ok so SH4, the one I really care about, is a steam version, so it is in the program files x86/steam folder, and there is very little I can do about that, but that was never a problem before with my other computer. So this is what it does, I try to run the game, steam does it's thing, and computer thinks for a second and than nothing. No black screen, just nothing. I look in Task Manager, under processes, and there right at the top is SH4, taking 350-680mb of memory running, but the only thing I can do is end the process. I have tried many different settings, and read thru many hours of tech support on here and a few other sites, and thought I would just ask for help from hopefully, someone that has had this problem or can maybe help either way. As for SH5, the game runs thru it's Ubisoft Launcher, I push start, and the movie starts up, but smaller than the screen, and like it's not really there. I can't click it, as I will just click whatever is behind the movie like the desktop. It is also in my processes, but not in the applications in my Task Manager, altho using far less memory for the opening movie. After the movie runs it's due course, the game stops and nothing, which almost seems like the same problem, save this one shows me the movie before failing, and SH4 just never actually comes up. Any help would be appreciated. I am having fun with SH3, but I bought SH4 U-Boat Missions and never started it, and only did the American side, and would really love to get back into that, as it was my favorite. Thank you in advance for any help you can offer, and if you need any more details, please let me know. Hassie

02-15-10, 10:50 PM	#3
Ships-R-Us Commander Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 452 Downloads: 134 Uploads: 0	As a last resort back off the Anisotropic Filter (AF) settings and try that, then if need be back off the other settings to see if you get some relief and better game play until another card comes your way.......

11-19-10, 02:28 PM	#8
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Either move it out of program files or disable UAC for starters. Neither should be a problem. You can try the compatibility modes too; right-click the .exe for the game and select 'disable desktop composition'. Additionally you can try 'run as administrator' to get around the 'program files'/UAC problem, and maybe set compatibility mode for OS you know the game is compatible with (I'd just try XP SP3). 'Disable visual themes' is worth a shot as well. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

11-20-10, 07:25 AM	#9
Hassie Nub Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	SH4/SH5 Problems Arclight- Thank you for the response. I have done several of the things you suggested and the game does absolutely nothing different. I run it as administrator from the folder, not from the steam game library page. Unfortunately Steam links their games to a web address on your desktop icons, and if you take it out of the steam folder, and put it just in the C:\ folder, it has problems and is missing files or something. I will try using compatibility modes I havent tried, disabling visual themes, and hell even taking off...and OMG, SH5 just worked by disabling my abnormal DPI size. Wow I appreciate the help Arc, I didnt even think to check any of the boxes below the compatibility setting, or the administrator box. Doing this on SH4 however does change what happens now... The steam box asking if I want to play the, and showing the cd-key for the game comes up, i push play, it thinks about it for a half of a nanosecond, than pops up again. If I take off visual themes, or the DPI it does this, taking of both does the same, and leaving the boxes unchecked obviously the problem is the same as when I first reported and you responded. I am going to try and manually switch my DPI to the normal size and see if that helps. If you have any other recommendations, or have heard of any similar problems and solutions, I would be in your debt for the help. I really wanna play SH4, and getting SH5 to work is almost a slap in the face, because of how bugged it is Hassie

11-20-10, 07:45 AM	#10
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Fair enough. If you install Steam in another directory, you'll get around the permission issues. Think you can copy (not move, copy) the whole thing to a new location, games and all, and uninstall Steam before reinstalling in the location you prepared (copied to). If you let Steam check the integrety of games after that, it will notice that the files are already there and pretty much complete instantly (might have to acquire few small files). A thing to test is disable UAC and see if that fixes SH4. If it does and you insist on keeping that godforsaken thing on, do the above to move everything over. Also, try disabling the Steam in-game overlay. It breaks every DX11 game I have, and recently X3 Terran Conflict started to refuse to run with it enabled as well. It wasn't exactly stable when it did run with the overlay enabled anyway. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

11-22-10, 11:48 AM	#11
jepo1501 Watch Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: England Posts: 16 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	Monitor keeps switching off Hi, Advice please............ i have a new monitor packard bell Maestro 242Dx. I have never had any probs with SH4 but now i have this new monitor running when i try and start the game it will go as far as the first screen (to the end of the progress bar) and then the screen goes blank a message is diplayed 'no signal being received' and then the monitor switches off, so then i have close the computer down and restart. I have tried everything i can think off and now i am getting very, very, frustrated....or is it angry!!!!!.................any help would be greatly appreciated.

03-19-15, 11:31 PM	#12
ssjtoma Watch Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Arizona Posts: 22 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	i'm a fan of both Radeon and Nvidia Gforce!! The first PC I built back in 05' had an ATI Radeon!! To think how far these graphic cards have come from even back then!!

08-14-15, 09:20 AM	#14
Harmsway! XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 400 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Nvidia released a new driver for Windows 10 today. 8/14/15 __________________ ----------------------- Gene SH5 Quick Start Guide

11-26-15, 05:27 AM	#15
Magic1111 Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany - Sailing on U-552 in North Atlantic Posts: 4,429 Downloads: 783 Uploads: 0	Hi Folks! Yesterday I "play" for testing with different nVidia Inspector settings, and I forgot to save my SH3 profile..... Now after tests I have the Sun Halo problem (Sun is a "Golf Ball"), and I don´t remember my settings before I began the tests. Before the tests the sun was perfect! My question is, can anybody please post the best - SH3/SH4 Inspector and - nVidia Control Panel Settings, that eliminate the Sun Halo Problem? Many thx in forward! Best regards, Magic __________________