[WIP] Buoy reworked - Page 3

Hitman · 07-11-07, 06:58 AM

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we often have to make decisions that feel like we are cutting off fingers to close the hatch and put things together.

It is harder now than ever before too. If we do not choose a stopping point we could go on forever... and we would never be finished.

Often, decision making is depressing and very complicated work. At times, very good ideas must be left by the roadside... for any number of equally good reasons.

I can well understand that

it brings back old memories from the time we were developing Pacific Aces; we also had tons of stuff lying around, but since modding is an ongoing process we needed to put and end line somewhen and leave lots of good stuff out

That's unfortunately what happens also to the Dev Teams in games like SH3/4. I bet if they had had some more months we would have received much better games, but on the other side we could equally be still waiting here a release with continuous improvements delying it:hmm:

DivingDuck · 07-11-07, 02:09 PM

Moin,

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Originally Posted by flakmonkey

DD: if your still in need of a bouy model i`d be happy to model one, should only take a couple of mins..... let me know.

thank you for your offer. I take any model I can get. Actually I have two different 3d models, the one made by Gary and one from Pontius. I'll post a pic of the second one asap, just to prevent you from building the same. I'm just reworking his (pontius') model's uvw mapping.
The only thing I would ask you, when modelling a new buoy, is to give a separate face ID to all faces that are made of glass and are supposed to be transparent. All the other faces should be given another ID.
Looking forward to your model(s). Variety is welcome.

EDIT
Here are the 3d models I have:

(rendered pic)

the left one has been made by pontius, the right one by Gary.

Regards,
DD

WilhelmSchulz. · 07-11-07, 03:59 PM

I like the one by Gary Better.

bigboywooly · 07-11-07, 04:02 PM

Pontious's one could do with being a bit low in the water
Both cool
Crack on DD I may yet get to squeeze them in

No pressure
:rotfl:

Alex · 07-11-07, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Pontious's one could do with being a bit low in the water

I like the one by Pontius better, but yes, both look really nice.

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Crack on DD I may yet get to squeeze them in
No pressure
:rotfl:

:rotfl:

Kpt. Lehmann · 07-11-07, 06:11 PM

One question though. (Sorry if I missed this already being covered somewhere.)

How would we keep the bouys from drifting around like docked ships in SH3.

I can just see my U-boat smacking into one now.

mkubani · 07-11-07, 06:24 PM

It sounds like to me that if you give Kaptain a really smart answer that would make him go "Hmmm, interesting...", then he may accept the buoy in GWX 1.04.

WilhelmSchulz. · 07-11-07, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Pontious's pne could do with being a bit low in the water
Both cool

pne what dose that stand for? :rotfl:

Alex · 07-12-07, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

How would we keep the bouys from drifting around like docked ships in SH3.

I can just see my U-boat smacking into one now.

I talked to DD the day before yesterday, and you're right Kpt., that's the question. The only way to fix it would be to make them stationary, not moving up and down.

Woof1701 · 07-12-07, 04:30 AM

How bad is the drifting issue? I never noticed, that the ships in SH3 drifted far from the docks and certainly never collided with one because of that. I only collide with them through my own stupidity ;-)

Kpt. Lehmann · 07-12-07, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Woof1701

How bad is the drifting issue? I never noticed, that the ships in SH3 drifted far from the docks and certainly never collided with one because of that. I only collide with them through my own stupidity ;-)

Well, with smaller docked ships like S-boats, the drift is immediatedly noticeable after only a few minutes. It is as if no mooring lines were tied or no anchor dropped.

The smaller the object, the worse the drift.

WilhelmSchulz. · 07-12-07, 06:20 AM

This has probly allready been thought of but would it be posible to find the dat files that keep the mines in place and use thoes?

Alex · 07-12-07, 06:26 AM

DD already thought of that.

I quote him : "I've asked for help already regarding my floating marina. but nobody had a solution. a way to make it real would be to create a "staticObject" and link a "UnderWaterFloatingObject". That´s the way Minefields and SubNets stay where they are. The only movement they do is up an down. But this link is hardcoded."

Kpt. Lehmann · 07-12-07, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

DD already thought of that.

I quote him : "I've asked for help already regarding my floating marina. but nobody had a solution. a way to make it real would be to create a "staticObject" and link a "UnderWaterFloatingObject". That´s the way Minefields and SubNets stay where they are. The only movement they do is up an down. But this link is hardcoded."

Well, thanks to hard-coding... that may be our answer right there.

Kudos to Diving Duck all the same.

Alex · 07-12-07, 07:52 AM

Yes... But you said it, this man is a wizard. So let's keep hope alive.

07-11-07, 03:59 PM	#33
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I like the one by Gary Better. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

07-11-07, 04:02 PM	#34
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Pontious's one could do with being a bit low in the water Both cool Crack on DD I may yet get to squeeze them in No pressure :rotfl: __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41 Last edited by bigboywooly; 07-11-07 at 11:40 PM.

07-11-07, 06:11 PM	#36
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	One question though. (Sorry if I missed this already being covered somewhere.) How would we keep the bouys from drifting around like docked ships in SH3. I can just see my U-boat smacking into one now. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

07-12-07, 06:20 AM	#42
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	This has probly allready been thought of but would it be posible to find the dat files that keep the mines in place and use thoes? __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

07-12-07, 06:26 AM	#43
Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	DD already thought of that. I quote him : "I've asked for help already regarding my floating marina. but nobody had a solution. a way to make it real would be to create a "staticObject" and link a "UnderWaterFloatingObject". That´s the way Minefields and SubNets stay where they are. The only movement they do is up an down. But this link is hardcoded." __________________

07-11-07, 06:24 PM	#37
mkubani Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 256 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It sounds like to me that if you give Kaptain a really smart answer that would make him go "Hmmm, interesting...", then he may accept the buoy in GWX 1.04.

07-12-07, 04:30 AM	#40
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	How bad is the drifting issue? I never noticed, that the ships in SH3 drifted far from the docks and certainly never collided with one because of that. I only collide with them through my own stupidity ;-)

07-12-07, 07:52 AM	#45
Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Yes... But you said it, this man is a wizard. So let's keep hope alive. __________________