Gun Control thread (merged many)

[les green01]

how in the well can a sharps be consider a assault rifle,next my 50cal flintlock be one oh wait on a good day I maybe can get two rounds off within a minute,now with the 44-40 and the 30-30 both level actions I can John Wayne them good.politicians are morons and they wonder why the country is going to hell in a hand basket.

[Cybermat47]

You know, I've made my opinion on gun control abundantly clear in the last 125284786537 and 1/2 threads about gun control, but it certainly seems rathe strange that they would ban shotguns in an assault weapons ban.

Also, in my opinion, the Government and NRA should be working together to find a solution to gun crime that everyone agrees on.

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Sure, until the 346th thread on gun control, when the subject gets banned along with several people over topic spamming.

Besides, my little game is more fun.

Or is it more fun to say "Feinstein is an idiot" over and over and over again?

I got to admit it makes me feel better. Just a tiny bit.

[em2nought]

Passing a Gun Shop lately is like passing a Halmark store when beanie babies were the big thing. Wonder when we'll get the V-8 ban? That should really stimulate the economy!

So where do I get a 3D printer? lol

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Guns - check
Obama - check
Democrat - check
Republican - check
Conspiracy - check
Communism - Dammit!

LOL

[razark]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Example at hand would be the Iver Johnson commemorative shotgun:

Isn't that shotgun an M1 Carbine?

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by razark

Isn't that shotgun an M1 Carbine?

That's what I was thinking. I didn't say anything because of my lack of firearms knowledge, and I did once think that the AR-15 was an assault rifle.

[TFatseas]

Originally Posted by razark

Isn't that shotgun an M1 Carbine?

Yeah, it's a Carbine.

Still an Iver Johnston commemorative though, and it still would be under the ban-hammer with Feinswine's bill.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Sure, until the 346th thread on gun control

346th? And which one of them has provided the members with a link to the bill? As it stands before the Full Senate.
I understand what you're saying Steve, apologies beforehand on sounding defensive, or if i've misinterpreted your intent to post that.
The Topic may be saturated onto the forums (which is understandable with every new event, be it world event or US-based), but if 'new(er)' material or information comes to hand i think it is not unreasonable to assume and perhaps even expect a new thread about said subject, with not-previously released information included of course.

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

You know, I've made my opinion on gun control abundantly clear in the last 125284786537 and 1/2 threads about gun control

Well, is it 346 or is it an almost infinite number of threads on this topic?

but it certainly seems rathe strange that they would ban shotguns in an assault weapons ban.

Strange? No, it's Feinstein, remember?

Also, in my opinion, the Government and NRA should be working together to find a solution to gun crime that everyone agrees on.

Working together? Not in a million years. If you remember my post on the NRA http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=202410&page=8
you will get an insight into the motifs and reasons how the NRA 'operates', for lack of better word.
The NRA is a hypocritical Lobby at the best of times and to 'cut off the hands that feed it', meaning the gun manufactures, and working with the Government on a common ground? Fat chance.

[Feuer Frei!]

And an update:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said on Monday that a controversial assault weapons ban will not be part of a Democratic gun bill that was expected to reach the Senate floor next month.
After a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Monday, a frustrated Feinstein said she learned that the bill she sponsored — which bans 157 different models of assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines — wouldn’t be part of a Democratic gun bill to be offered on the Senate floor. Instead, it can be offered as an amendment. But its exclusion from the package makes what was already an uphill battle an almost certain defeat.

SOURCE

Yeah, it's a Carbine.

Still an Iver Johnston commemorative though, and it still would be under the ban-hammer with Feinswine's bill.

It isn't under the ban hammer, its on the exempt list.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Guns - check
Obama - check
Democrat - check
Republican - check
Conspiracy - check
Communism - Dammit!

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Besides, my little game is more fun.

Clearly this means we need an extended edition with more words and possibilities. I'm up for suggestions.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

346th? And which one of them has provided the members with a link to the bill? As it stands before the Full Senate.
I understand what you're saying Steve, apologies beforehand on sounding defensive, or if i've misinterpreted your intent to post that.
The Topic may be saturated onto the forums (which is understandable with every new event, be it world event or US-based), but if 'new(er)' material or information comes to hand i think it is not unreasonable to assume and perhaps even expect a new thread about said subject, with not-previously released information included of course.

When I start getting carried away with things, and we all do from time to time, I take one of my statements and tag on the words here, on this forum dedicated to video games. It tends to provide the overall context of importance and keeps me on the from turning preacher.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by TFatseas

Yeah, it's a Carbine.

Still an Iver Johnston commemorative though, and it still would be under the ban-hammer with Feinswine's bill.

Only cause it has "High Capacity" with that 15 round magazine.

Thank god my Savage only has a capacity of 5 and no pistol grips.

I wonder if they'll ban tactical scopes too.... I can read a book across my house and then switch settings to count leaves on a tree 200 yards away. It's nice...no mildots though. It's a Sweet .223. One of those that calculates for bullet drop.

[Ducimus]

Reguarding Fienstien, (aka "The googly eyed Harpy")

I, and many others have noticed how she seems to think that PTSD is "relatively new advent" as a "result of the Iraq war". In one sentence, she eloquently exemplified her ignorance and the old saying, "Better to be thought of a fool then to open ones mouth and remove all doubt".

Also, in my opinion, the Government and NRA should be working together to find a solution to gun crime that everyone agrees on.

One reason no one is never going to see both sides of "the gun argument" working together, nor even a true "national discussion" is because of the language and positioning of the anti-gun crowd. By their very choice of words, and actions, they immediately put gun owners on the defensive and as result permanently remove the people most knowledgeable about the subject from the conversation. What you end up with is idiots that think a barrel shroud is Or more recently, (the guy famed for his letter to Fienstien), the Chicago tribune thinks the front sling swivel of an AR-15 is for mounting a grenade launcher or bayonet. Seriously? I'll just toss this tidbit about out while I'm at it.

In my opinion, this is not just about guns. It's about the constant and steady erosion of our civil liberties. We're already at the point where:
- legislature exists that is (poorly) worded in such a way where it is conceivable for the government to haul US citizens away and detain them indefinitely without due process.. (Patriot act and NDAA)
- We have politicians who seem to think that the contents of the Bill of Rights is subject to their interpretation.

Now their chipping at the Second Amendment. If successful there, what's next? Eventually the second amendment will disappear entirely. At which point there is not a doubt in my mind that the 4th Amendment would be subject to "interpretation" next. The only thing I wonder is how long would it take to get to that point. After the 4th, what would be next? Who knows, but if our politicians were to be left unchecked, it's not a question of if our government turns completely tyrannical, but when. I doubt this turn to complete tyranny ( nor any justification to move from the ballot box to the cartridge box) will happen in our lifetimes; however it will be our descendants and future generations who will bear the burden and the price if we don't stop the erosion of our civil liberties in the here and now.

Taking the long view, this isn't about guns, its much larger then that.