[REL]ROW Pacific Environments 3.3 - Page 37

Rubini · 04-28-08, 10:06 PM

@Kriller2,

You have a PM...if yet in time!

fireship4 · 04-28-08, 11:01 PM

An important note for those who changed the "CargoType=" in Zones.cfg from "Ammo" to "None" after problems were found with NSM4 when used in conjunction with RSRD I think, causing ships to blow up too often.

This will change it back, so you'll need to do it again.

Hope we see a fix for this from one of the modders though as breaking some keels would be nice. I think its to do was explosions going off on the ship causing the keel damage area that i think werner had modded to explode unintentionally. Possibly ship cargo or explosions being changed by RSRD did this...

Mod seems very nice so far guys well done. I especially like the shell effect... I'm switched over here from Environment Mod for a bit...

thasaint · 04-29-08, 12:40 AM

awesome job guys!

Nisgeis · 04-29-08, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireship4

Mod seems very nice so far guys well done. I especially like the shell effect... I'm switched over here from Environment Mod for a bit...

Is that an optional install pack? Kriller says in the readme that there are problems with it and TMO, but doesn't say what problems - anyone know what they are?

ReallyDedPoet · 04-29-08, 07:31 AM

The waves ( especially in storm conditions ) in this mod are truly awsome

The look, the feel are a sight to behold.
Well done

RDP

Wilcke · 04-29-08, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireship4

An important note for those who changed the "CargoType=" in Zones.cfg from "Ammo" to "None" after problems were found with NSM4 when used in conjunction with RSRD I think, causing ships to blow up too often.

This will change it back, so you'll need to do it again.

Hope we see a fix for this from one of the modders though as breaking some keels would be nice. I think its to do was explosions going off on the ship causing the keel damage area that i think werner had modded to explode unintentionally. Possibly ship cargo or explosions being changed by RSRD did this...

Mod seems very nice so far guys well done. I especially like the shell effect... I'm switched over here from Environment Mod for a bit...

Doing research to document the above problem...do you have a link to a post where Werner was addressing this...? Just link it to this in a quote .... thanks ... I will keep searching the threads...

kriller2 · 04-29-08, 11:08 AM

The only problem with the special effects is that they use the zones.cfg to control the effects and TM uses the same file. Dr. Beast have made 3 different version one for stock SH4, one for NSM4 light and one for NSM4, so we need to make 3 different zones.cfg for TM and Dr. Beast is on vacation right now... :hmm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

The waves ( especially in storm conditions ) in this mod are truly awsome

The look, the feel are a sight to behold.
Well done

RDP

Thanks RDP Im glad you like the new storm waves better

BTW a small patch will be posted later today, there was a problem with the debris mod so that you would never see the lifeboats with people on board, but it's fixed and now you will both see the new debris when a ship is sunk AND the original life boats, thanks to Rubini for working on this mod for SH4

fireship4 · 04-29-08, 11:29 AM

Here Wilcke...

Quote:

Originally Posted by WernerSobe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galanti

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlmightyTallest

I already have a long campaign career going with RSRD 3 and NSM 4 Classic, can I safely rollback to NSM 3.3 that's in TMaru 1.7.6 without ruining my carrer in game?

It's safer to do it in port, but I'm 99% it won't ruin your career.

As a stopgap measure until you get to port, i suggest opening your Zones.cfg (in the root of your Data folder), finding this entry:

[NSKeel]
Category=Keel
Multiplier=10.0
Flotability=10.0
HitPoints=150
Destructible=No
Armor Level=20
Critic Flotation=0.5
Critical=Yes
Critical Chance=1.0
FloodingTime=200
CargoType=Ammo

And change CargoType=Ammo to CargoType=None. This should stop you from breaking ships in 2 with contact shots. It will also stop you from breaking them in 2 with mag shots, though.

This is the best alternative i can suggest yet. Im working on a fix but this will take a while. So far you can disable The keel zone by the method above. You will still have all nsm4 features but without breaking ships.

I imagine just removing ammo cargoes from RSRD campaign files would work also but would have its own drawbacks, as well as maybe reducing ammo explosion radius (though that might affect werners keel).

You have a few posts in that thread (pages 31-34 of "[REL] Natural Sinking Mechanics" are of particular interest) so you must just have missed this after you decided to pull NSM4.

akdavis · 04-29-08, 04:07 PM

I'm seeing some similar issues with reflections as noted earlier. I tested using the Artillery Training mission, so it is easily repeatable. Maybe the direct comparison will provide some hints?

Also makes the fact that some ships LODs are missing reflections very apparent.

LukeFF · 04-29-08, 05:22 PM

Kriller, I am running into a problem with the game crashing wiht this new version of the mod. I have a test mission that I use to try out submarine performance characteristics - it's a blank mission with just the player's sub and perfectly calm seas. Anyways, every now and then, when viewing the surface (either on the bridge or through a periscope) the game will crash without warning and tell me the file in question is kernel.dll. I've never seen this happen before with your mod work, so I'm led to believe something might be up here with this mod. Can you look into this?

kriller2 · 04-29-08, 05:29 PM

Hi LukeFF and AkdaDavis and Fireship,

Can I ask you what mods you are using? - to be sure it's PE3 causing the trouble I will ask you to uninstall all mods except PE3 and see if the same thing happens, then I have something to track the issue down to.

LukeFF · 04-29-08, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriller2

Hi LukeFF and AkdaDavis and Fireship,

Can I ask you what mods you are using? - to be sure it's PE3 causing the trouble I will ask you to uninstall all mods except PE3 and see if the same thing happens, then I have something to track the issue down to.

I'm running it on top of the RFB test build, nothing out of the ordinary. Other than that, just some custom sub skins.

kriller2 · 04-29-08, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriller2

Hi LukeFF and AkdaDavis and Fireship,

Can I ask you what mods you are using? - to be sure it's PE3 causing the trouble I will ask you to uninstall all mods except PE3 and see if the same thing happens, then I have something to track the issue down to.

I'm running it on top of the RFB test build, nothing out of the ordinary. Other than that, just some custom sub skins.

Thanks LukeFF, I need the latest test build of RFB in order to help with this issue, my hunch is it's the one causing the trouble, PE3 has been tested ALOT (3 times) and none of the testers experienced issues.

LukeFF · 04-29-08, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriller2

Thanks LukeFF, I need the latest test build of RFB in order to help with this issue, my hunch is it's the one causing the trouble, PE3 has been tested ALOT (3 times) and none of the testers experienced issues.

Hi Kriller,

Here are the latest RFB builds:

You will need both files on that page to be current.

kriller2 · 04-29-08, 05:41 PM

Thanks! Got it downloading, you may remove the links now if you don't want to release the mod before time

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04-28-08, 10:06 PM	#541
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	@Kriller2, You have a PM...if yet in time! __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

04-28-08, 11:01 PM	#542
fireship4 Ensign Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 221 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	An important note for those who changed the "CargoType=" in Zones.cfg from "Ammo" to "None" after problems were found with NSM4 when used in conjunction with RSRD I think, causing ships to blow up too often. This will change it back, so you'll need to do it again. Hope we see a fix for this from one of the modders though as breaking some keels would be nice. I think its to do was explosions going off on the ship causing the keel damage area that i think werner had modded to explode unintentionally. Possibly ship cargo or explosions being changed by RSRD did this... Mod seems very nice so far guys well done. I especially like the shell effect... I'm switched over here from Environment Mod for a bit... __________________ Rest in peace Dave

04-29-08, 12:40 AM	#543
thasaint Medic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York City, USA Posts: 163 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	awesome job guys! __________________

04-29-08, 07:31 AM	#545
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,895 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	The waves ( especially in storm conditions ) in this mod are truly awsome The look, the feel are a sight to behold. Well done RDP __________________ Back in the Day

04-29-08, 04:07 PM	#549
akdavis Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 597 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm seeing some similar issues with reflections as noted earlier. I tested using the Artillery Training mission, so it is easily repeatable. Maybe the direct comparison will provide some hints? Also makes the fact that some ships LODs are missing reflections very apparent. __________________ -AKD

04-29-08, 05:22 PM	#550
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	Kriller, I am running into a problem with the game crashing wiht this new version of the mod. I have a test mission that I use to try out submarine performance characteristics - it's a blank mission with just the player's sub and perfectly calm seas. Anyways, every now and then, when viewing the surface (either on the bridge or through a periscope) the game will crash without warning and tell me the file in question is kernel.dll. I've never seen this happen before with your mod work, so I'm led to believe something might be up here with this mod. Can you look into this? __________________ ROW Sound Effects Contributor RFB Team Leader

04-29-08, 05:29 PM	#551
kriller2 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Hi LukeFF and AkdaDavis and Fireship, Can I ask you what mods you are using? - to be sure it's PE3 causing the trouble I will ask you to uninstall all mods except PE3 and see if the same thing happens, then I have something to track the issue down to. __________________ *Kriller2.* [MODs] Real Environment mod and Pacific Enviroments 4 mod

04-29-08, 05:41 PM	#555
kriller2 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Thanks! Got it downloading, you may remove the links now if you don't want to release the mod before time __________________ *Kriller2.* [MODs] Real Environment mod and Pacific Enviroments 4 mod