[REL] Fifi Compilation for OM+OMEGU

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Fifi

I already noticed a type IX (maybe the IXB?) has second rear flak directly on deck, like the front deck gun...and no rear winter garden.
Maybe it’s the one Peter is referring to?

When i will come to this one for importation, i’ll See if it is normal or not.
Maybe it’s normal though...

OM has so many different turms and hulls, it’s driving me mad sometimes.
Not that easy to find out my way through all this!

From what I see on that uboat dot net site, the IX & IXb had the rear AA gun mounted on the deck, but I'm sure there were variations of the IXb that had other configurations - of course, maybe that's where the IXc and IXc40 & IXd "models" came from??... lol - Quite a bit like US subs in the Pacific, it probably depended upon the date you're looking at the boat, and who the commanding officer was, as to what its deck configuration was...

[Fifi]

So it seems not that wrong...

[Fifi]

Second one is finished!

Here is the type IXB in 1944...and you can see he has a winter garden





Now will start an other one

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Guys
IIRC the basic setup for flak guns was a 37mm deck mounted flak gun with 2 crew + 1 winter garden with a single or twin flak with 1 crew.
This could be upgraded to 2 winter gardens with single or twin flaks in each by removing the 37mm deck mount and 1 crew slot.
Picture shows only the 1 flak gun.

In SH4 this may be different to SH3.


The illustration shows 2 flak mounts in winter gardens.
My type IX has the 2 crew slots as seen in the picture below.



This pictures shows there is no provision for second flak gun.
It also does not state what type IX it is supposed to be.


Peter

[Fifi]

Ok i see what you meant...

On your picture, it’s a basic IX (without any letter after, it’s a IX A)
The type IX A in OM has only one flak like your first picture.
What we can see, is that it’s doesn’t match the sub drawing of your second picture in the crew management...but the good thing is the flak slot correspond to what you get ingame (2 guys per flak gun)

So only problem is the drawing mismatching...to me, it seems to be a type IXB (if i recall well, the basic IXB has one flak upstairs and one flak on deck)

Right now, i dunno how to fix it, nor if there is any IX A drawing available...so best for the moment is to ignore the drawings in crew management tab

Thanks Peter for reporting this

ÉDIT: if i knew where to find the drawing file within the tons of files, there is an easy fix i could do with photoshop...but i suspect type IXB share the same file with type IXA...so either one or other would have wrong drawing...

[THEBERBSTER]

Fifi

but the good thing is the flak slot correspond to what you get ingame (2 guys per flak gun)

That would be incorrect as each light flak gun only has 1 gunner.

Interesting Question! > Where does the problem lie?
2 crew slots is incorrect for 1 flak gun.
Why 2 crew slots, not 1?
You can see from the pictures that adding the second crew man to the flak gun makes no difference.




In this SH3 picture you can see 2 flak gunners for 2 winter gardens with a flak guns in each.




In this picture you can see 3 flak gunners for 2 flak guns
1 winter garden with 1 gunner.
1 deck mounted 37mm flak gun requires 2 gunners
This was the standard layout AFAIK for a type IX.




Peter

[Fifi]

In OM they (all ?) have 2 guys per flak gun...and often you see both guys at the flak station.
Now, it’s obvious your type IX doesn’t show the 2 guys...and probably some other types doesn’t need 2 guys either.
Dunno how Lurker worked that point.

This AA gun crew problem needs to be re-worked i think, maybe someone could solve it (thinking of FOTRSU team guys who were already involved) because i suck so much when it comes to this kind of files

Anyway it’s not a game breaker IMHO, just an annoying detail

[Fifi]

Today, IXC 1940 is finished...i'm done with the types IX
Still long road for types II and VII

[Fifi]

Proud to present you new little baby convertion to SH4 OM...U-Boat type IIB













I have changed periscopes position for the attack one in the rear tube.
But waiting confirmation of this, i can easily go back for front tube.

The beauty of WAC submarines with the SH4 engine is just stunning

[Niume]

Holy crap the Submarines look amazing can;t wait for update.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by Niume

Holy crap the Submarines look amazing can;t wait for update.

Thanks mate, it's coming slowly but surely

Last of the Type II...the D2 one



The beauty of best SH3 subs, but with SH4 water transparency

[Niume]

Oh my god.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Fifi

The beauty of best SH3 subs, but with SH4 water transparency

I've been saying for years that SH4 is the better platform, crippled by bad timing as it never received the love from the modders that SH3 got. Now, thanks to you, Fifi, and some others, that is finally starting to happen.

I wish I could help more, but all I can do is watch this beauty unfold.

Thank you for your dedication to finally giving this forgotten gem the attention it deserves.

[Niume]

They look so good that maybe i will going to play with them. I never played with the Type II.
Would be nice to get historical torpedeo skins. Like this in KSD II

 

[Fifi]

You are absolutely right Sailor Steve! Thanks for your support!

Yeah, type II are fun...but very challenging!
You have to think twice before launching a fish...only very few inboard, and if you get duds...
Not to say you don’t even get any deck gun to sink easy targets.
It can be very frustrating!

About the torp skins, i think it can be easily implemented
It will be on the to do list after the subs importation.