Did this just happen?

SeaQueen · 04-28-06, 01:09 PM

I launched a wake homing torpedo homing on one ship. While the one ship was trying to evade, another crossed very close in front of my wake homer. The torpedo SHOULD have detonated when it got struck the second ship. Instead, it passed through it and continued to home on it's original target.

It was one of the funniest things I've seen a torpedo do.

Ultraboy · 04-28-06, 02:15 PM

Was it one of these?

Seriously, I have fired a few wakehomers in heavy traffic, and never encountered what you described.
But then again, I can't remember any specific time where the torpedo may have passed THAT close to another ship.

Remember, if it does do that, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

SeaQueen · 04-28-06, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultraboy

Was it one of these?

That picture is GREAT!

LuftWolf · 04-28-06, 08:48 PM

Where is that from??? :hmm:

Ultraboy · 04-28-06, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LuftWolf

Where is that from??? :hmm:

http://www.cyber-heritage.co.uk/cutaway/

The original pic is on this site, plus some other interesting WW2-era stuff.

SeaQueen: Because I have a lot of time on my hands today, I tried to duplicate the wakehomer situation you described. Each time I fired, the fish would always home in on the intended target regardless of what else was in or near it's path. On the fourth try, the target passed behind the "interference" ship, and sure enough, the torpedo passed right through it and on to the target.

Thus, I can only conclude, the torpedo is magic.

LuftWolf · 04-28-06, 10:35 PM

Hmm... there ought to be something I can do about this.

I'll take a look at the wakehoming doctrine along with the other stuff I'm doing for LWAMI 3.03.

Thanks for finding this SQ and for confirming it UB.

Bellman · 04-29-06, 12:22 AM

3 questions:

(1) LwAmi 3.03

Did I rRead somewhere we had seen the last one ?

(2) Where is Amizaur ?

(3) What is a 'whisker' ?

LuftWolf · 04-29-06, 01:28 AM

Perhaps... that was before the breakthrough on the SLAM-ER. The modding projects will continue, but the future packaging is not set at this point.

Amizaur is still active on the mod.

XabbaRus · 04-29-06, 02:25 AM

I'd have thought you would have been able to use another ship as a decoy, ie you run across its wake and if by the time the torp reaches the crossover point if the decoy's wake is stronger thatn yours it would go after the decoy.

Wim Libaers · 04-30-06, 10:43 AM

Weapons flying through solid objects are normal in this game. Easy to demonstrate with the sub SAM and any ship. Apparently, unless explicitly programmed to track and hit something, collision detection isn't done.

LuftWolf · 04-30-06, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wim Libaers

Weapons flying through solid objects are normal in this game. Easy to demonstrate with the sub SAM and any ship. Apparently, unless explicitly programmed to track and hit something, collision detection isn't done.

For weapons, you are correct.

I'm not entirely sure about regular torpedoes, but I suspect this does not work for them... based on the fact that back in stock DW you could drop a CM at any point before the weapon hits you and it will still home and explode on the CM.

GunnersMate · 04-30-06, 06:33 PM

Somehow I doubt they had a "Phased Cloaking Device" during WW2.

However I may be mistaken. :hmm:

Wim Libaers · 05-01-06, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LuftWolf

based on the fact that back in stock DW you could drop a CM at any point before the weapon hits you and it will still home and explode on the CM.

Yes, but wasn't that a special case, where the weapon would decide to home on the sub or the CM once, and after that it would either completely ignore the sub, or the CM? And they do tend to ignore dead platforms, at least most of the time. With exceptions http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=51872

SeaQueen · 05-01-06, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultraboy

SeaQueen: Because I have a lot of time on my hands today, I tried to duplicate the wakehomer situation you described. Each time I fired, the fish would always home in on the intended target regardless of what else was in or near it's path. On the fourth try, the target passed behind the "interference" ship, and sure enough, the torpedo passed right through it and on to the target.

Thus, I can only conclude, the torpedo is magic.

RAD!!!! :|\

SeaQueen · 05-01-06, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuftWolf

Thanks for finding this SQ and for confirming it UB.

I just call it how I see it.

04-28-06, 01:09 PM	#1
SeaQueen Naval Royalty Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 1,185 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Did this just happen? I launched a wake homing torpedo homing on one ship. While the one ship was trying to evade, another crossed very close in front of my wake homer. The torpedo SHOULD have detonated when it got struck the second ship. Instead, it passed through it and continued to home on it's original target. It was one of the funniest things I've seen a torpedo do.

04-28-06, 08:48 PM	#4
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Where is that from??? :hmm: __________________ LW

04-28-06, 10:35 PM	#6
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Hmm... there ought to be something I can do about this. I'll take a look at the wakehoming doctrine along with the other stuff I'm doing for LWAMI 3.03. Thanks for finding this SQ and for confirming it UB. __________________ LW

04-29-06, 12:22 AM	#7
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	3 questions: (1) LwAmi 3.03 Did I rRead somewhere we had seen the last one ? (2) Where is Amizaur ? (3) What is a 'whisker' ? __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

04-29-06, 01:28 AM	#8
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Perhaps... that was before the breakthrough on the SLAM-ER. The modding projects will continue, but the future packaging is not set at this point. Amizaur is still active on the mod. __________________ LW

04-28-06, 02:15 PM	#2
Ultraboy Gunner Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Mysterious Canadas Posts: 99 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Was it one of these? Seriously, I have fired a few wakehomers in heavy traffic, and never encountered what you described. But then again, I can't remember any specific time where the torpedo may have passed THAT close to another ship. Remember, if it does do that, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

04-29-06, 02:25 AM	#9
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I'd have thought you would have been able to use another ship as a decoy, ie you run across its wake and if by the time the torp reaches the crossover point if the decoy's wake is stronger thatn yours it would go after the decoy. __________________

04-30-06, 10:43 AM	#10
Wim Libaers Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Flanders Posts: 569 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Weapons flying through solid objects are normal in this game. Easy to demonstrate with the sub SAM and any ship. Apparently, unless explicitly programmed to track and hit something, collision detection isn't done.

04-30-06, 06:33 PM	#12
GunnersMate Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USS Sea Tiger Posts: 251 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Somehow I doubt they had a "Phased Cloaking Device" during WW2. However I may be mistaken. :hmm: __________________ \"Sir they just fired an Exocet at us!\" \"Very well, Bosn pipe Sweepers\" I\'m having trouble with the radar, sir. What\'s wrong with it? I\'ve lost the bleeps, I\'ve lost the sweeps, and I\'ve lost the creeps.