Playable Japanese Subs

bill clarke · 04-21-06, 02:30 AM

Are any of you interested in this as an option/add on ?
I know that they really did not have much of an impact historically but, It would be a tremendous challenge, and imagine being off Savo island during the American invasion in 42.

Raelotu · 04-21-06, 08:46 AM

If the Indianapolis was sunk a little sooner, the war might have been a little different.

bill clarke · 04-22-06, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raelotu

If the Indianapolis was sunk a little sooner, the war might have been a little different.

I doubt that anything would've stopped that.

Rosencrantz · 04-22-06, 10:03 AM

Excuse me, Raelotu, but have you ever heard about Hiroshima?

-RC-

DeepSix · 04-22-06, 12:18 PM

I think what Raelotu means is that because Indy was the ship that carried the nukes to Tinian, they wouldn't have been dropped if she'd been sunk before she got there (she was actually sunk on the way home after).

But I doubt that it would have done anything but postpone the inevitable.

Marvin the Martian · 04-25-06, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosencrantz

Excuse me, Raelotu, but have you ever heard about Hiroshima?

-RC-

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Yes Nip subs for sure Pleeeeez..

bookworm_020 · 04-25-06, 10:43 PM

Some japanese miget subs would be nice, maybe some british x-craft as well

GlowwormGuy · 05-02-06, 02:34 AM

It would be good though frankly just having the possibility of modding the vessels to make them playable will be good. I hope that they take the best of the old subsims but add stuff like the SH2 world wide map and the capacity to mod other things in - like in the Total War series of games where you have a specific place but the possibility for additional stuff.

Mountbatten

STEED · 05-02-06, 04:42 AM

Jap subs why not indeed sounds good.

FAdmiral · 05-02-06, 10:05 AM

Lets put drivable DD's from both sides in the mix too....

JIM

zaza · 05-03-06, 10:21 AM

I would like to handle I-360 class suplly sub
and I-56 Jyunsen type otu(B) class sub

Threadfin · 05-05-06, 02:54 PM

I want a good representation of US boats, but that said, I'd like to have Japanese boats too. They had some interesting and ingenious designs, excellent torpedos, some carried recon planes, and everyone knows about the bomber-carrying Sen Toku type. The Japanese had the fastest submerged sub (faster than XXI).

I think it would be outstanding to play the campaign from either side.

joea · 05-05-06, 07:06 PM

I want this:

http://www.combinedfleet.com/sen_toku.htm

The big one of WWII.

DeepSix · 05-06-06, 01:18 AM

For the record, I do not want Japanese subs in SH4. I just don't think there'd be anything to do after 1942. Historically, the Japanese subs were mostly pulled off offensive patrols in 1943 and sent off on resupply and evacuation missions. In all of '43, they only sank two or three USN ships; on the other hand, they lost about 20 boats in '42 and another 20-some in '43.

Driving a Japanese sub might be fun once or twice, but for me it's not something I'd want to keep coming back to and playing again.

Harry Buttle · 05-06-06, 09:32 PM

a chance to see Ubi waste time and resources on a subject few are interested in. great.

if it got up it might just kill the SH franchise and all to give an absolute minimum number of players a chance to command some of the worst submarine designs of the war, under the worst doctrine, running the most boring missions, with some of the worst sensors, up against some of the best ASW forces in the world and all of it requiring massive computer power to model the huge allied convoys/amphib TFs and masses of ASW airpower.

There may just be a more worthless way for Ubi to spend their time and money, but just I can't see it.

04-21-06, 02:30 AM	#1
bill clarke Captain Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW Australia Posts: 519 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Playable Japanese Subs Are any of you interested in this as an option/add on ? I know that they really did not have much of an impact historically but, It would be a tremendous challenge, and imagine being off Savo island during the American invasion in 42.

04-21-06, 08:46 AM	#2
Raelotu Nub Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Playable Jap Subs If the Indianapolis was sunk a little sooner, the war might have been a little different.

04-22-06, 12:18 PM	#5
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I think what Raelotu means is that because Indy was the ship that carried the nukes to Tinian, they wouldn't have been dropped if she'd been sunk before she got there (she was actually sunk on the way home after). But I doubt that it would have done anything but postpone the inevitable. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

04-25-06, 10:43 PM	#7
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Some japanese miget subs would be nice, maybe some british x-craft as well __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

05-02-06, 04:42 AM	#9
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Jap subs why not indeed sounds good. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

04-22-06, 10:03 AM	#4
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Excuse me, Raelotu, but have you ever heard about Hiroshima? -RC-

05-02-06, 02:34 AM	#8
GlowwormGuy Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 187 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	It would be good though frankly just having the possibility of modding the vessels to make them playable will be good. I hope that they take the best of the old subsims but add stuff like the SH2 world wide map and the capacity to mod other things in - like in the Total War series of games where you have a specific place but the possibility for additional stuff. Mountbatten

05-02-06, 10:05 AM	#10
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Lets put drivable DD's from both sides in the mix too.... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

05-03-06, 10:21 AM	#11
zaza Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sapporo city Hokkaido JAPAN Posts: 118 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	I would like to handle I-360 class suplly sub and I-56 Jyunsen type otu(B) class sub

05-05-06, 02:54 PM	#12
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I want a good representation of US boats, but that said, I'd like to have Japanese boats too. They had some interesting and ingenious designs, excellent torpedos, some carried recon planes, and everyone knows about the bomber-carrying Sen Toku type. The Japanese had the fastest submerged sub (faster than XXI). I think it would be outstanding to play the campaign from either side.

05-05-06, 07:06 PM	#13
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I want this: http://www.combinedfleet.com/sen_toku.htm The big one of WWII.

05-06-06, 01:18 AM	#14
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	For the record, I do not want Japanese subs in SH4. I just don't think there'd be anything to do after 1942. Historically, the Japanese subs were mostly pulled off offensive patrols in 1943 and sent off on resupply and evacuation missions. In all of '43, they only sank two or three USN ships; on the other hand, they lost about 20 boats in '42 and another 20-some in '43. Driving a Japanese sub might be fun once or twice, but for me it's not something I'd want to keep coming back to and playing again. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

05-06-06, 09:32 PM	#15
Harry Buttle Soundman Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 144 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	a chance to see Ubi waste time and resources on a subject few are interested in. great. if it got up it might just kill the SH franchise and all to give an absolute minimum number of players a chance to command some of the worst submarine designs of the war, under the worst doctrine, running the most boring missions, with some of the worst sensors, up against some of the best ASW forces in the world and all of it requiring massive computer power to model the huge allied convoys/amphib TFs and masses of ASW airpower. There may just be a more worthless way for Ubi to spend their time and money, but just I can't see it.