bit of a natter about this and that

She-Wolf · 09-29-07, 04:51 AM

Hello all again.

Nobody was able to help me with my hydrophone problem (I can't get it to turn when I want to use it personally), so that's ok... I will get by.. somehow.

I downloaded the manual for SH2 to see if that might give me some clues. it doesn't, but what it does mention is thermo clines, and it says that my crew will alert me whenever we pass through one. Well... that has not been my experience. No-one has ever mentioned layers to me in SH3. Is that because I seldom get into combat situations or because I am always in the North Sea?

I have been trying to understand the game Dangerous Waters - I saw it going cheap, so I bought it. Gosh, hard to get into. If I persevere I might find a good game in there, though it can't beat SH3 for realism I think, and it might help me understand more about submarine warfare - that too goes on about thermal layers - so why have I not found any in SH3?.

The seas have been rough for DAYS on my present patrol, and my poor watch gets regularly dunked when I have to come up for batteries, but I haven't lost a man (yet). The only targets I have located so far are too far away, so I am about to sneak a bit closer to Harwich to see if I can find a convoy hugging the coast. Risky I know, and it will probably end in a watery death - but I can't go back to Kiel with nothing.....

Huskalar · 09-29-07, 05:06 AM

When you click somewhere on the hydrophone dial, the needle doesn't start to turn towards that point automaticly?

And there are thermal layers but you're just not notified when you pass through one.

She-Wolf · 09-29-07, 05:45 AM

no it doesn't! It used to, until about three real-time days ago...

ahh, so, if no-one tells me when I have passed through a thermal layer in SH3, how can I know and take advantage of it?? :hmm:

Huskalar · 09-29-07, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by She-Wolf

no it doesn't! It used to, until about three real-time days ago...

In that case I'm afraid that I'm not able to help you. But of course you can always re-install the game. But I can imagine that re-installing the game is not the option that you prefer the most.

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Originally Posted by She-Wolf

ahh, so, if no-one tells me when I have passed through a thermal layer in SH3, how can I know and take advantage of it?? :hmm:

Well, I guess that when the DD's above you can't ping you anymore, there is chance that's because you're in or under a thermal layer. Of course you don't know where you can find such a layer, but the deeper you go, the higher the chance you can take advantage of it. If you're using SH3 Commander the depth of thermal layers is randomly generated every time the game is started.

Capt. Shark Bait · 09-29-07, 06:24 AM

She-Wolf, if you're using a type IIA i had the same prob. HP wheel wouldn't turn, but it does in a VII i took command of, but for other reasons

She-Wolf · 09-29-07, 07:02 AM

Shark Bait, I am in that type u-boat, yes. Not had it happen before.

I could re-install the game as Huskalar suggests, but that means I have to reload GWX as well... still. I can do that! course I can!

Jimbuna · 09-29-07, 10:46 AM

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

She-Wolf · 09-29-07, 10:50 AM

you mean I should say GGGRRRRR at it Jimbuna? ok... GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRROOOWWWLLLL

nope, didn't work

NealT · 09-29-07, 11:05 AM

Just do not get so aggressive you smash the keyboard or the monitor...I am not sure you would appreciate the outcome :hmm:

She-Wolf · 09-29-07, 11:18 AM

hello Neal - no, tis ok, I love my pootah ( well, most of the time) and I will be nice to it. I shall try re-installing the game and GWX ...

Jimbuna · 09-29-07, 11:19 AM

The hydrophone wheel problem on the typeII is a stock problem.

As for thermal layers, what SH3 Commander actually does is limit the ability of the escorts sensors randomly, to simulate different thermal layer depths/conditions

Jimbuna · 09-29-07, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by She-Wolf

hello Neal - no, tis ok, I love my pootah ( well, most of the time) and I will be nice to it. I shall try re-installing the game and GWX ...

If you do decide on a new install....permit me to give a few pointers

1. Uninstall SH3 via Windows' "Add/Remove programs"
2. Open Windows Explorer and:
- *delete* the folder where you had installed SH3
- *delete* the \My Documents\SH3 folder
3. Reinstall SH3
4. If your SH3 did not come with patch v1.4b already included, install patch v1.4b. Ensure you install the patch that corresponds to your copy of SH3 (Download/DVD/EMEA/US)
5. OPTIONAL: Copy and paste this "clean" install as a backup to avoid the need to follow steps 1-3 if your game becomes corrupt in future
6.Download into the SAME folder GWX.exe and the five .bin files. While there grab the v1.03 patch
7. Run GWX.exe and follow the installation prompts
8. Run GWX103.exe and follow the installation prompts
9. SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder.

She-Wolf · 09-29-07, 12:31 PM

thank you Jimbuna, I will follow your instructs.

One thing I wonder about. When I first installed SH3 and GWX, I also had a folder from BigBoy ( where has he gone to?), something about December amendments was it? I still have that folder but can't remember where I am to put the contents. Can you advise please?

HW3 · 09-29-07, 01:01 PM

The December 23 update is included in the 1.03 patch, so you do not need it anymore.

papa_smurf · 09-29-07, 02:10 PM

I've not had this problem with the type IIA - maybe I was lucky. (wish I had similar luck with my patrols, keep on having shoot-outs with aircraft BIG mistake

)

09-29-07, 04:51 AM	#1
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	bit of a natter about this and that Hello all again. Nobody was able to help me with my hydrophone problem (I can't get it to turn when I want to use it personally), so that's ok... I will get by.. somehow. I downloaded the manual for SH2 to see if that might give me some clues. it doesn't, but what it does mention is thermo clines, and it says that my crew will alert me whenever we pass through one. Well... that has not been my experience. No-one has ever mentioned layers to me in SH3. Is that because I seldom get into combat situations or because I am always in the North Sea? I have been trying to understand the game Dangerous Waters - I saw it going cheap, so I bought it. Gosh, hard to get into. If I persevere I might find a good game in there, though it can't beat SH3 for realism I think, and it might help me understand more about submarine warfare - that too goes on about thermal layers - so why have I not found any in SH3?. The seas have been rough for DAYS on my present patrol, and my poor watch gets regularly dunked when I have to come up for batteries, but I haven't lost a man (yet). The only targets I have located so far are too far away, so I am about to sneak a bit closer to Harwich to see if I can find a convoy hugging the coast. Risky I know, and it will probably end in a watery death - but I can't go back to Kiel with nothing..... __________________

09-29-07, 05:45 AM	#3
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	no it doesn't! It used to, until about three real-time days ago... ahh, so, if no-one tells me when I have passed through a thermal layer in SH3, how can I know and take advantage of it?? :hmm: __________________

09-29-07, 06:24 AM	#5
Capt. Shark Bait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in a convergance zone Posts: 1,186 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	She-Wolf, if you're using a type IIA i had the same prob. HP wheel wouldn't turn, but it does in a VII i took command of, but for other reasons __________________ Leiser und tödlicher edler Ritter der Tiefe Corsair Vengeance M70; ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z; FX 8350; Asus 7870; Samsung SyncMaster 2243SWX; coolmax CUG950B 950w psu; 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3; Corsair M4 SSD 128GB, WD 1TB; x18 DVR212D; 7SP1

09-29-07, 07:02 AM	#6
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Shark Bait, I am in that type u-boat, yes. Not had it happen before. I could re-install the game as Huskalar suggests, but that means I have to reload GWX as well... still. I can do that! course I can! __________________

09-29-07, 10:46 AM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-29-07, 05:06 AM	#2
Huskalar Ensign Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 221 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 0	When you click somewhere on the hydrophone dial, the needle doesn't start to turn towards that point automaticly? And there are thermal layers but you're just not notified when you pass through one.

09-29-07, 10:50 AM	#8
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	you mean I should say GGGRRRRR at it Jimbuna? ok... GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRROOOWWWLLLL nope, didn't work __________________

09-29-07, 11:05 AM	#9
NealT Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 2 Meters Below Jimbuna Posts: 1,060 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Just do not get so aggressive you smash the keyboard or the monitor...I am not sure you would appreciate the outcome :hmm:

09-29-07, 11:18 AM	#10
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	hello Neal - no, tis ok, I love my pootah ( well, most of the time) and I will be nice to it. I shall try re-installing the game and GWX ... __________________

09-29-07, 11:19 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The hydrophone wheel problem on the typeII is a stock problem. As for thermal layers, what SH3 Commander actually does is limit the ability of the escorts sensors randomly, to simulate different thermal layer depths/conditions __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-29-07, 12:31 PM	#13
She-Wolf Watchdog Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 971 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	thank you Jimbuna, I will follow your instructs. One thing I wonder about. When I first installed SH3 and GWX, I also had a folder from BigBoy ( where has he gone to?), something about December amendments was it? I still have that folder but can't remember where I am to put the contents. Can you advise please? __________________

09-29-07, 01:01 PM	#14
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	The December 23 update is included in the 1.03 patch, so you do not need it anymore. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

09-29-07, 02:10 PM	#15
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I've not had this problem with the type IIA - maybe I was lucky. (wish I had similar luck with my patrols, keep on having shoot-outs with aircraft BIG mistake )