New ATI Adaptive anti-aliasing and SH3. Great!

Rubini · 10-07-05, 01:06 AM

Hi guys,

After read this article "A way to enable adaptive anti-aliasing in the last Catalyst drivers" in www.rage3d.com and made some tests these are my impressions with SH3: this feature introduce a great visual improvement in SH3 (specially at harbours) for the ATi Radeons owners. I'm using the Cat 5.9 with the last release of the Ati Tray tools which already incorporate this new optional adaptive AA. Until now this feature was only present in Nvidia 7800 and old 3Dfx cards. Here the link for the entire article
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24069

This new feature makes AA on the alpha textures. The Visual are the same that old 3Dfx 5500...awesome!

Here the pics (X800XtPE) . Note the jags on the cranes even with 4AA/8AF . (The day light is no intentional - AAA = Adaptive AA):

No AAA

With AAA

No AAA

With AAA

Rubini.

glenno · 10-07-05, 03:21 AM

I have CAT 5.9 drivers and the only thing i can see different is whats called temporal anti aliasing . Is this the same thing .

Gizzmoe · 10-07-05, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by glenno

I have CAT 5.9 drivers and the only thing i can see different is whats called temporal anti aliasing . Is this the same thing .

No, itÂ´s something different. AAA must be enabled first, itÂ´s not available by default.

Download and install the latest "ATI Tray Tools":
http://www.guru3d.com/article/atitraytools/189/

Start it, right-click on the ATT system tray icon, select Tweaks/Advanced Tweaks, and unselect "No Support for Adaptive AA" under Additional Tweaks. Apply the change and reboot the PC.

Right-click the ATT icon again, then you can activate AAA under Direct3d/Antialiasing.

AAA only works if you either have Antialiasing enabled in the game you play or if you force Antialiasing via ATT or the standard ATI Control Panel.

basilio · 10-07-05, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenno

I have CAT 5.9 drivers and the only thing i can see different is whats called temporal anti aliasing . Is this the same thing .

No, itÂ´s something different. AAA must be enabled first, itÂ´s not available by default.

Download and install the latest "ATI Tray Tools":
http://www.guru3d.com/article/atitraytools/189/

Start it, right-click on the ATT system tray icon, select Tweaks/Advanced Tweaks, and unselect "No Support for Adaptive AA" under Additional Tweaks. Apply the change and reboot the PC.

Right-click the ATT icon again, then you can activate AAA under Direct3d/Antialiasing.

AAA only works if you either have Antialiasing enabled in the game you play or if you force Antialiasing via ATT or the standard ATI Control Panel.

All right, so just to clarify.
To use this new feature of Adaptive A.A.:
1) do I need to use catalyst 5.9 or could I apply it also to previous drivers releases (like 5.8)?
2) do I need to use the Catalyst Control Center (CCC) or is it fine to use the old Control Panel?
3) do I need to modify registry values (as described in the forum topic posted above) or could I just install the ATT system tray icon and follow the procedure you described?

Gizzmoe · 10-07-05, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by basilio

1) do I need to use catalyst 5.9 or could I apply it also to previous drivers releases (like 5.8)?

You need 5.9.

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2) do I need to use the Catalyst Control Center (CCC) or is it fine to use the old Control Panel?

As far as I know it doesnÂ´t work with the old panel. But ATT is a complete replacement for the CCC and the old Control Panel, you donÂ´t need them anymore.

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3) do I need to modify registry values (as described in the forum topic posted above) or could I just install the ATT system tray icon and follow the procedure you described?

Install ATT and follow the procedure.

glenno · 10-07-05, 04:23 AM

Works.

HanSolo78 · 10-07-05, 07:15 AM

Do you use the res-fix for higher resolutions above 1024x768???
When I changed to Cat 5.9 and wanted to try AAA with SHIII I realized that it wonÂ´t start anymore.
Only without the res-fix itÂ´s working.
But 1024 res I donÂ´t wanna use and the AAA is just too nice to go back to Cat 5.8.
So... atm I am not able to play SHIII how I want to

<Moderator edit: Part of message removed - Gizzmoe>

basilio · 10-07-05, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HanSolo78

Do you use the res-fix for higher resolutions above 1024x768???
When I changed to Cat 5.9 and wanted to try AAA with SHIII I realized that it wonÂ´t start anymore.
Only without the res-fix itÂ´s working.
But 1024 res I donÂ´t wanna use and the AAA is just too nice to go back to Cat 5.8.
So... atm I am not able to play SHIII how I want to

<Moderator edit: Part removed>

I was just going to post the same message.
The Ati Tools Toolbar installed just fine, I select the AAA (following the procedure described above) but then I'm having problems with STARFORCE...it will not check the dvd anymore and the game won't start.
So that is because I'm using the Sartori fix to play with 1280*1024 resolution.
<Moderator edit: Part removed>

Gizzmoe · 10-07-05, 09:22 AM

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Gammel · 10-07-05, 10:18 AM

hehe, reminds me at the Life of Brian movie...

"I'm warning you! If you say c**** once more..."

"Blasphemy! He said it again!..."

and so on...

soryy, just kidding...

HanSolo78 · 10-08-05, 12:51 PM

Damn it... the mission editor does not start also

What a gerat driver by ati.... i am fed up with it!!

remilton · 10-08-05, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanSolo78

Damn it... the mission editor does not start also

What a gerat driver by ati.... i am fed up with it!!

Sorry to hear you are having problems.... :hmm:

Catalyst 5.9 and AAA work great on my computer however; I highly recommend it.

SH III and Mission builder load and run with no problem.

basilio · 10-08-05, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by remilton

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanSolo78

Damn it... the mission editor does not start also

What a gerat driver by ati.... i am fed up with it!!

Sorry to hear you are having problems.... :hmm:

Catalyst 5.9 and AAA work great on my computer however; I highly recommend it.

SH III and Mission builder load and run with no problem.

Are you using the stock game resolution or the Sartori fix?

remilton · 10-08-05, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by basilio

Quote:

Originally Posted by remilton

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanSolo78

Damn it... the mission editor does not start also

What a gerat driver by ati.... i am fed up with it!!

Sorry to hear you are having problems.... :hmm:

Catalyst 5.9 and AAA work great on my computer however; I highly recommend it.

SH III and Mission builder load and run with no problem.

Are you using the stock game resolution or the Sartori fix?

I am using the stock game resolution. From what I understand though that is not necessarily a problem with the ATI video drivers, but the game code.

HanSolo78 · 10-08-05, 06:19 PM

Here I am again.
Just tried the last few hours where the probelm is.
After I changed to Cat 5.8 it also denied starting.
So the problem had to be another... luckily I discovered that
Ati Tray Tools new version should be the hint.
If itÂ´s off you can start both programms.
Strange, but thatÂ´s how it works at my sys.

10-07-05, 01:06 AM	#1
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	New ATI Adaptive anti-aliasing and SH3. Great! Hi guys, After read this article "A way to enable adaptive anti-aliasing in the last Catalyst drivers" in www.rage3d.com and made some tests these are my impressions with SH3: this feature introduce a great visual improvement in SH3 (specially at harbours) for the ATi Radeons owners. I'm using the Cat 5.9 with the last release of the Ati Tray tools which already incorporate this new optional adaptive AA. Until now this feature was only present in Nvidia 7800 and old 3Dfx cards. Here the link for the entire article http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24069 This new feature makes AA on the alpha textures. The Visual are the same that old 3Dfx 5500...awesome! Here the pics (X800XtPE) . Note the jags on the cranes even with 4AA/8AF . (The day light is no intentional - AAA = Adaptive AA): No AAA With AAA No AAA With AAA With AAA With AAA Rubini.

10-07-05, 10:18 AM	#10
Gammel Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 641 Downloads: 276 Uploads: 0	hehe, reminds me at the Life of Brian movie... "I'm warning you! If you say c**** once more..." "Blasphemy! He said it again!..." and so on... soryy, just kidding... __________________ nie das Boot verlassen

10-07-05, 03:21 AM	#2
glenno Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have CAT 5.9 drivers and the only thing i can see different is whats called temporal anti aliasing . Is this the same thing .

10-07-05, 04:23 AM	#6
glenno Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Works.

10-07-05, 07:15 AM	#7
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	Do you use the res-fix for higher resolutions above 1024x768??? When I changed to Cat 5.9 and wanted to try AAA with SHIII I realized that it wonÂ´t start anymore. Only without the res-fix itÂ´s working. But 1024 res I donÂ´t wanna use and the AAA is just too nice to go back to Cat 5.8. So... atm I am not able to play SHIII how I want to <Moderator edit: Part of message removed - Gizzmoe>

10-07-05, 09:22 AM	#9
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Guys, I advise you to read the forum rules: http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/faq.php

10-08-05, 12:51 PM	#11
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	Damn it... the mission editor does not start also What a gerat driver by ati.... i am fed up with it!!

10-08-05, 06:19 PM	#15
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	Here I am again. Just tried the last few hours where the probelm is. After I changed to Cat 5.8 it also denied starting. So the problem had to be another... luckily I discovered that Ati Tray Tools new version should be the hint. If itÂ´s off you can start both programms. Strange, but thatÂ´s how it works at my sys.