foggy fog fog!

chrisy · 09-10-05, 05:34 AM

after learning how to do fast 90 targeting and practicing in navel academy wich i was well chuffed with when worked i set of on pertrol in carear mode.

out east of scarpa flow picked up a contact and stated a intercept coures.oh yeah and the weather was poop!
on wich i almost ran into my target though lack of visablity and a green crew.

dived to perispope depth and started tracking it and tryed to employ fast 90 method.
this seemed to almost impossable as weather was to bad and i would loose visual at around 300m and my target which was a big fat c2 would disapear into the merk!
after about an hour of losing it and then hunting it out agian with hydraphone i gave up.
even tryed point and shoot shot but visabilty was so bad by the time i saw it through the merk it was to close for my torpedo to arm.
so this was the one that got away. and i continued to my patrol zone.
:P

im still got a lot to learn and im still a green skipper ,what tactics should i employ in this sort of situation or is it all down to experience!

Dowly · 09-10-05, 05:40 AM

On one patrol I tracked a C3 for almost an hour in a bad weather, winds 15m/s and visibility 300-400m.

After awhile I found it.... or should I say she founded me:

Now, when I get a sound contact in a bad weather, I take look at this picture and leave the contact alone.

CB.. · 09-10-05, 05:40 AM

if it's early in the campaign and the merchants haven't got deck guns yet then i reckon the only safe tactic in the very thick fog is to attack with the deck gun (if it's calm anyway) other than that give them a wide berth during poor visability ;as you say by the time you've got them within visual range theyre too close for torpedos-- and they just love to ram you

i avoid them like the plague in thick fog

chrisy · 09-10-05, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

On one patrol I tracked a C3 for almost an hour in a bad weather, winds 15m/s and visibility 300-400m.

After awhile I found it.... or should I say she founded me:

Now, when I get a sound contact in a bad weather, I take look at this picture and leave the contact alone.

lol :rotfl: thats exactly what happend to me ,almost pooped myself

Dowly · 09-10-05, 05:44 AM

Well, you ALMOST pooped, I wasnt so lucky. :rotfl:

chrisy · 09-10-05, 05:45 AM

so i guese its a case of riding out the storm

Dowly · 09-10-05, 05:47 AM

As CB said, attack with deck gun if possible, otherwise let it be.

Just remember, that the storm can last for weeks. My longest is 2 weeks and 1 day.

chrisy · 09-10-05, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

As CB said, attack with deck gun if possible, otherwise let it be.

Just remember, that the storm can last for weeks. My longest is 2 weeks and 1 day.

two weeks dam!thats a lot of gramaphone records and stail bread then.
thanks for the tips folks.

i love this sim. happy hunting

chrisy.

the_rydster · 09-10-05, 05:59 AM

Trying to set up for a 90/270 shot in poor visibility is very hard if doing manual targetting/no map updates, you just cannot get the data.

In terrible weather/visibility now I just latch onto them from behind and follow deck awash if I can. Set up for a magnetic shots and line them up at 0 degrees and Bobs your Uncle! Works everytime so long as you do not get too close then they spot you and get evasive.

chrisy · 09-10-05, 06:14 AM

cool i will give it a try.
surface or submerged shot though?

the_rydster · 09-10-05, 08:14 AM

Running fully submerged it is hard to catch up with even the slowest mechant so I run decks awash (or even fully surfaced if I am feeling brave) and use the diesals.

Just latch onto the merchants course and aim to catch up slowly making fine adjustments to your couse so you are eventually running on exactly the same course as they are directly behind.

If I can ID the merchant I go for a magnetic shot, if not I set it for 1m and impact. No need to mess with the TDC or put any other data in, just fire with the Persicope/UZO at 0 degree gyro so long as you are directly behind. I sometime do this from 2000m no problem, just got to line it up right and take your time.

ICBM · 09-10-05, 09:39 AM

A quicky about the 'fast 90'; According to the instructions you have to be perpendicular in relation to the enemy ship. (90 degree angle)

So if I understand it correctly you have to figure out the ship's course and only then the 'fast 90' tactic is usable?

Iceberg · 09-10-05, 10:19 AM

Dowly, I know the feeling!!

But let's just say that this ship didn't ran into anybody else... I made sure of that!

Iceberg

the_rydster · 09-10-05, 10:35 AM

See Wazzo's tutorial for how to track targets manually.

You have to turn off map updates for this to be used though. Takes some practice but is worth it.

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apache_longbow · 09-10-05, 12:58 PM

One thing is an c2/3 or tanker out of the fog BUT I did look behind and an destroyer

at flank speed behind me towards me (no pic) I got heavy dmg but I was saved by the ocean floor at 110m or so. I got floding and stuff and I did manage (after a while) to get the boat upp to surface and 5% compressed air left. If not THAT is a close call then I don't know what...

09-10-05, 05:34 AM	#1
chrisy Watch Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	foggy fog fog! after learning how to do fast 90 targeting and practicing in navel academy wich i was well chuffed with when worked i set of on pertrol in carear mode. out east of scarpa flow picked up a contact and stated a intercept coures.oh yeah and the weather was poop! on wich i almost ran into my target though lack of visablity and a green crew. dived to perispope depth and started tracking it and tryed to employ fast 90 method. this seemed to almost impossable as weather was to bad and i would loose visual at around 300m and my target which was a big fat c2 would disapear into the merk! after about an hour of losing it and then hunting it out agian with hydraphone i gave up. even tryed point and shoot shot but visabilty was so bad by the time i saw it through the merk it was to close for my torpedo to arm. so this was the one that got away. and i continued to my patrol zone. :P im still got a lot to learn and im still a green skipper ,what tactics should i employ in this sort of situation or is it all down to experience! __________________ stuff that leeky gland .

09-10-05, 05:40 AM	#3
CB.. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	if it's early in the campaign and the merchants haven't got deck guns yet then i reckon the only safe tactic in the very thick fog is to attack with the deck gun (if it's calm anyway) other than that give them a wide berth during poor visability ;as you say by the time you've got them within visual range theyre too close for torpedos-- and they just love to ram you i avoid them like the plague in thick fog __________________ the world's tinyiest sh3 supermod- and other SH3/SH2 stuff http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B.Yeats

09-10-05, 05:45 AM	#6
chrisy Watch Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	so i guese its a case of riding out the storm __________________ stuff that leeky gland .

09-10-05, 05:59 AM	#9
the_rydster Seaman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Classified Posts: 41 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Trying to set up for a 90/270 shot in poor visibility is very hard if doing manual targetting/no map updates, you just cannot get the data. In terrible weather/visibility now I just latch onto them from behind and follow deck awash if I can. Set up for a magnetic shots and line them up at 0 degrees and Bobs your Uncle! Works everytime so long as you do not get too close then they spot you and get evasive. __________________ O/B U-69, 2nd Flotilla

09-10-05, 06:14 AM	#10
chrisy Watch Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	cool i will give it a try. surface or submerged shot though? __________________ stuff that leeky gland .

09-10-05, 05:40 AM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	On one patrol I tracked a C3 for almost an hour in a bad weather, winds 15m/s and visibility 300-400m. After awhile I found it.... or should I say she founded me: Now, when I get a sound contact in a bad weather, I take look at this picture and leave the contact alone.

09-10-05, 05:44 AM	#5
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Well, you ALMOST pooped, I wasnt so lucky. :rotfl:

09-10-05, 05:47 AM	#7
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	As CB said, attack with deck gun if possible, otherwise let it be. Just remember, that the storm can last for weeks. My longest is 2 weeks and 1 day.

09-10-05, 08:14 AM	#11
the_rydster Seaman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Classified Posts: 41 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Running fully submerged it is hard to catch up with even the slowest mechant so I run decks awash (or even fully surfaced if I am feeling brave) and use the diesals. Just latch onto the merchants course and aim to catch up slowly making fine adjustments to your couse so you are eventually running on exactly the same course as they are directly behind. If I can ID the merchant I go for a magnetic shot, if not I set it for 1m and impact. No need to mess with the TDC or put any other data in, just fire with the Persicope/UZO at 0 degree gyro so long as you are directly behind. I sometime do this from 2000m no problem, just got to line it up right and take your time. __________________ O/B U-69, 2nd Flotilla

09-10-05, 09:39 AM	#12
ICBM Navy Dude Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Holland. Posts: 175 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A quicky about the 'fast 90'; According to the instructions you have to be perpendicular in relation to the enemy ship. (90 degree angle) So if I understand it correctly you have to figure out the ship's course and only then the 'fast 90' tactic is usable? __________________

09-10-05, 10:19 AM	#13
Iceberg Bosun Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 68 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Dowly, I know the feeling!! But let's just say that this ship didn't ran into anybody else... I made sure of that! Iceberg

09-10-05, 10:35 AM	#14
the_rydster Seaman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Classified Posts: 41 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	See Wazzo's tutorial for how to track targets manually. You have to turn off map updates for this to be used though. Takes some practice but is worth it. [/url] __________________ O/B U-69, 2nd Flotilla

09-10-05, 12:58 PM	#15
apache_longbow Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	One thing is an c2/3 or tanker out of the fog BUT I did look behind and an destroyer at flank speed behind me towards me (no pic) I got heavy dmg but I was saved by the ocean floor at 110m or so. I got floding and stuff and I did manage (after a while) to get the boat upp to surface and 5% compressed air left. If not THAT is a close call then I don't know what...