What is the length of a true wire?

Deathblow · 01-08-06, 08:21 PM

Anyone got any estimates on the true wire length of a wire guided torpedo? 5nm, 10nm?

I'm just curious

TLAM Strike · 01-08-06, 09:31 PM

What kind of torpedo? I've read that a MK 48 has a 10-mile spool onboard the sub and a 10-mile spool in the torpedo for a total of 20 miles.

GEPARD · 01-09-06, 09:47 AM

i agree!

Sub Sailor · 01-09-06, 09:54 AM

I also agree that it is 10 miles in the after part of the torpedo, and 10 in the tube.
The Navy decided on that arrangement so the submarine can clear the launch point and still guide the weapon.

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

Deathblow · 01-09-06, 05:59 PM

20nm it is then.

Thanks for the info

blackshark · 01-10-06, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Deathblow

20nm it is then.

Thanks for the info

20 miles and not 20 nautical miles - am I correct? :hmm:

OKO · 01-10-06, 03:54 AM

10/10 sounds strange to me :
torpedoes will run always must faster than subs, usually 3 to 4 times !
so when the torp will reach 10 NM, the subs will be certainly at less than 3 miles from the original launch point.
I should have found 5 miles (for subs) / 15 miles (for torp) a best setting.
But maybe there is no way to put 15 miles of wire in the torp ....

JanMasterson · 08-24-06, 07:04 AM

a french torp L5mod 2 (for SSN)'s wire is about 13.5nm long and a M48 ADCAP 's wire is about 21.6nm long.

Do someone have figures for other nations?

What about UK and Russia?

Bon Vent, Bonne Chasse,
Jan

goldorak · 08-24-06, 07:28 AM

Maybe its a stupid question, but how thick is the wire ?
Having 10nm of wire onboard must take some space no ?
An what about the torpedo, how much part of the torpedo is dedicated to carrying the other 10nm of wire ?

JanMasterson · 08-24-06, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by goldorak

Maybe its a stupid question, but how thick is the wire ?
Having 10nm of wire onboard must take some space no ?
An what about the torpedo, how much part of the torpedo is dedicated to carrying the other 10nm of wire ?

from my source a wire isn't larger than an hair, more or less like optical fiber i guess.

goldorak · 08-24-06, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JanMasterson

from my source a wire isn't larger than an hair, more or less like optical fiber i guess.

Wow i'm impressed

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UglyMowgli · 08-24-06, 10:24 AM

In a Discovery document about SSN, we can see a torpedo man showing the wire, I will try to extract the scen or make image from the show.

drEaPer · 08-24-06, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sub Sailor

I also agree that it is 10 miles in the after part of the torpedo, and 10 in the tube.
The Navy decided on that arrangement so the submarine can clear the launch point and still guide the weapon.

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

"clear the launch point" means closing the tube and rearming? or what does that mean?
Just curious, cause in DW you loose your connection to the torp when closing the tubedoor. So this is unrealistic?

Wim Libaers · 08-24-06, 05:41 PM

It means moving the submarine away from the position where the weapon was launched, because the enemy might have heard the launch and counterattack that position.

Henson · 08-24-06, 08:41 PM

15 Nautical Miles.

10 Kyds in the tube, 20 Kyds in the weapon's fuel section. The weapon moves faster, so it needs more wire.

01-08-06, 08:21 PM	#1
Deathblow Captain Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 518 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What is the length of a true wire? Anyone got any estimates on the true wire length of a wire guided torpedo? 5nm, 10nm? I'm just curious

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	What kind of torpedo? I've read that a MK 48 has a 10-mile spool onboard the sub and a 10-mile spool in the torpedo for a total of 20 miles. __________________

01-09-06, 09:54 AM	#4
Sub Sailor Commander Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Orofino, Idaho Posts: 443 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	I aree I also agree that it is 10 miles in the after part of the torpedo, and 10 in the tube. The Navy decided on that arrangement so the submarine can clear the launch point and still guide the weapon. Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

08-24-06, 07:04 AM	#8
JanMasterson Nub Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	a french torp L5mod 2 (for SSN)'s wire is about 13.5nm long and a M48 ADCAP 's wire is about 21.6nm long. Do someone have figures for other nations? What about UK and Russia? Bon Vent, Bonne Chasse, Jan __________________ Bon Vent, Bonne Chasse! Tripartite Traduction Team tripartite@free.fr Thierry, Pierre-Louis, Jan.

08-24-06, 10:24 AM	#12
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In a Discovery document about SSN, we can see a torpedo man showing the wire, I will try to extract the scen or make image from the show. __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

01-09-06, 09:47 AM	#3
GEPARD Watch Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 24 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	i agree!

01-09-06, 05:59 PM	#5
Deathblow Captain Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 518 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	20nm it is then. Thanks for the info

01-10-06, 03:54 AM	#7
OKO Commander Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Solar system, mainly on earth Posts: 476 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	10/10 sounds strange to me : torpedoes will run always must faster than subs, usually 3 to 4 times ! so when the torp will reach 10 NM, the subs will be certainly at less than 3 miles from the original launch point. I should have found 5 miles (for subs) / 15 miles (for torp) a best setting. But maybe there is no way to put 15 miles of wire in the torp ....

08-24-06, 07:28 AM	#9
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe its a stupid question, but how thick is the wire ? Having 10nm of wire onboard must take some space no ? An what about the torpedo, how much part of the torpedo is dedicated to carrying the other 10nm of wire ?

08-24-06, 05:41 PM	#14
Wim Libaers Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Flanders Posts: 569 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It means moving the submarine away from the position where the weapon was launched, because the enemy might have heard the launch and counterattack that position.

08-24-06, 08:41 PM	#15
Henson Planesman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 185 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	15 Nautical Miles. 10 Kyds in the tube, 20 Kyds in the weapon's fuel section. The weapon moves faster, so it needs more wire.