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Deathblow 01-08-06 08:21 PM

What is the length of a true wire?
 
Anyone got any estimates on the true wire length of a wire guided torpedo? 5nm, 10nm?

I'm just curious

TLAM Strike 01-08-06 09:31 PM

What kind of torpedo? I've read that a MK 48 has a 10-mile spool onboard the sub and a 10-mile spool in the torpedo for a total of 20 miles.

GEPARD 01-09-06 09:47 AM

i agree!

Sub Sailor 01-09-06 09:54 AM

I aree
 
I also agree that it is 10 miles in the after part of the torpedo, and 10 in the tube.
The Navy decided on that arrangement so the submarine can clear the launch point and still guide the weapon.

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

Deathblow 01-09-06 05:59 PM

20nm it is then.

Thanks for the info

blackshark 01-10-06 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathblow
20nm it is then.

Thanks for the info

20 miles and not 20 nautical miles - am I correct? :hmm:

OKO 01-10-06 03:54 AM

10/10 sounds strange to me :
torpedoes will run always must faster than subs, usually 3 to 4 times !
so when the torp will reach 10 NM, the subs will be certainly at less than 3 miles from the original launch point.
I should have found 5 miles (for subs) / 15 miles (for torp) a best setting.
But maybe there is no way to put 15 miles of wire in the torp ....

JanMasterson 08-24-06 07:04 AM

a french torp L5mod 2 (for SSN)'s wire is about 13.5nm long and a M48 ADCAP 's wire is about 21.6nm long.

Do someone have figures for other nations?

What about UK and Russia?

Bon Vent, Bonne Chasse,
Jan

goldorak 08-24-06 07:28 AM

Maybe its a stupid question, but how thick is the wire ?
Having 10nm of wire onboard must take some space no ?
An what about the torpedo, how much part of the torpedo is dedicated to carrying the other 10nm of wire ?

JanMasterson 08-24-06 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldorak
Maybe its a stupid question, but how thick is the wire ?
Having 10nm of wire onboard must take some space no ?
An what about the torpedo, how much part of the torpedo is dedicated to carrying the other 10nm of wire ?

from my source a wire isn't larger than an hair, more or less like optical fiber i guess.

goldorak 08-24-06 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanMasterson
from my source a wire isn't larger than an hair, more or less like optical fiber i guess.

Wow i'm impressed :o.

UglyMowgli 08-24-06 10:24 AM

In a Discovery document about SSN, we can see a torpedo man showing the wire, I will try to extract the scen or make image from the show.

drEaPer 08-24-06 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub Sailor
I also agree that it is 10 miles in the after part of the torpedo, and 10 in the tube.
The Navy decided on that arrangement so the submarine can clear the launch point and still guide the weapon.

Ron Banks MMCM(SS), USN(Ret)

"clear the launch point" means closing the tube and rearming? or what does that mean?
Just curious, cause in DW you loose your connection to the torp when closing the tubedoor. So this is unrealistic?

Wim Libaers 08-24-06 05:41 PM

It means moving the submarine away from the position where the weapon was launched, because the enemy might have heard the launch and counterattack that position.

Henson 08-24-06 08:41 PM

15 Nautical Miles.

10 Kyds in the tube, 20 Kyds in the weapon's fuel section. The weapon moves faster, so it needs more wire.


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